Lake St. Clair, 2008

Marine Thunderstorm Winds in Lake St. Clair, June 8, 2008

June 8, 2008 · NWS DTX · 4 events in 3 counties and zones

A derecho moved through southeast Michigan and Lake Saint Clair during the afternoon of June 8th, producing enhanced winds as high as 85 mph.

Where it happened

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  • Wind
  • Hail
  • Winter weather
  • Heat and drought
  • Cold
  • Fire, smoke and dust
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The toll

Deaths
0
Injuries
0
Property damage
$100,000
Crop damage
None recorded
Events
4

Deaths and injuries are direct and indirect together, as the offices filed them. Damage is property and crops in the dollars of the year, not adjusted for inflation, and only where an office estimated it.

What happened

The episode as NWS DTX wrote it up.

A derecho moved through southeast Michigan and Lake Saint Clair during the afternoon of June 8th, producing enhanced winds as high as 85 mph.

What forecasters said that day

The local office's own words before the first event, as it sent them, from the Iowa Environmental Mesonet's archive of National Weather Service text.

NWS Detroit, MI wrote its last area forecast discussion before the first event at Jun 8, 1:35 PM EST, 2 hours 55 minutes earlier.

Area forecast discussion, Jun 8, 1:35 PM EST, 2 hours 55 minutes before
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DETROIT/PONTIAC MI
235 PM EDT SUN JUN 8 2008

.SHORT TERM...TONIGHT

SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH IN EFFECT UNTIL 10 PM.

WILL KEEP THIS SHORT AS ACTIVITY IS QUICKLY APPROACHING.
AN 18Z DTX SOUNDING WAS LAUNCHED AND SHOULD BE AVAILABLE SHORTLY.

MCV TRACKING THROUGH NORTHERN LOWER MICHIGAN LATE THIS
AFTERNOON...WITH SOLID LINE OF STORMS STILL HOLDING TOGETHER
NICELY...DESPITE LOW LEVEL CONVERGENCE/INFLOW NOT BEING MAXIMIZED
WITH THE SOUTHWEST WINDS OUT AHEAD OF THE LINE. GOOD INSTABILITY IN
PLACE OVER SOUTHEAST MICHIGAN...WITH MLCAPES OF 2000 J/KG AND
SURFACE BASED CAPES REACHING 3500+ J/KG. DAMAGING WINDS REMAIN A
GOOD POSSIBILITY WITH THE STRONG (35 TO 45 KNOTS)...BUT
UNIDIRECTIONAL LOW/MID LEVEL WINDS. CONVECTIVE LINE WILL TEND TO
FOLD OVER INTO A MORE WEST-EAST ORIENTATION THIS EVENING...WHICH
MAKES ONE CONCERNED FOR FLOODING ACROSS THE SOUTH HALF OF THE CWA
WITH POSSIBILITY OF TRAINING ECHOES...AS 850 THETA-E RIDGE AXIS
LINGERS ALONG/SOUTH OF THE BORDER THROUGH THE NIGHT.

&&

.LONG TERM...MONDAY THROUGH SUNDAY

MONDAY WILL BE THE LAST IN THIS STRING OF SULTRY WEATHER.  THE HIGH
TEMPERATURES WILL HINGE UPON HOW QUICKLY THE RESIDUAL CLOUD COVER
FROM TONIGHT/S CONVECTIVE FESTIVITIES CAN SCOUR OUT.  GIVEN THAT THE
SURFACE FRONT WILL BE CLOSER TO THE REGION...WILL BANK ON MORE CLOUD
COVER...SO WILL UNDERCUT GUIDANCE VALUES BY A FEW DEGREE - BUT WILL
STILL CHALLENGE 90F ACROSS THE SOUTH WITH MID/UPPER 80S A GOOD BET
ACROSS THE REST OF THE AREA.

THE STRONG SURFACE HEATING WILL AGAIN RESULT IN APPRECIABLE
DESTABILIZATION OF THE LOWER TROPOSPHERE.  ADDITIONALLY...HEIGHT
FALLS ALOFT AND AN ASSOCIATED MID/UPPER LEVEL SPEED MAX WILL PROVIDE
LARGE SCALE ASCENT AND INCREASED DEEP LAYER SHEAR - EASILY
SUPPORTIVE OF ORGANIZED CONVECTIVE STRUCTURES.  FURTHERMORE...THE
NAM AND GFS ARE STILL ADVERTISING A SURFACE WAVE ALONG THE FRONT TO
TRAVERSE THE LOWER PENINSULA DURING THE LATE AFTERNOON AND EVENING
HOURS...WHICH WILL AID IN LENGTHENING THE HODOGRAPH AT LOW-LEVELS
AND SERVE AS A FOCUSING MECHANISM FOR CONVECTIVE DEVELOPMENT.
GIVEN AMPLE DESTABILIZATION...SEVERE CONVECTION MAY BE IN THE OFFING
ONCE AGAIN.

IN THE WAKE OF THE SYSTEM ON TUESDAY...MID-LEVELS WILL COOL
DRAMATICALLY IN THE PRESENCE OF DEEP LAYER COLD ADVECTION.  SO IN
SPITE OF SURFACE TEMPS STAYING IN THE 70S...LAPSE RATES SHOULD
REMAIN STEEP ENOUGH THROUGH THE LOWEST 20KFT TO SUPPORT SHOWERS AND
EVEN A FEW STORMS.

EXTENDED PROGS ARE IN REASONABLE AGREEMENT WITH THE OVERALL REGIME
PROGRESSION THROUGH THE MIDDLE TO LATTER PORTIONS OF THE WEEK.
DIFFERENCES ARISE AS WE ENTER NEXT WEEKEND...AS THE ECMWF EXHIBITS
A STRONGER BLOCKING PATTERN THAN THE GFS.  THE NAEFS MEMBERS ARE NOT
AS BULLISH ON ESTABLISHING THE PRONOUNCED OMEGA BLOCK BY FRIDAY -
POSSIBLY AN ARTIFACT OF THE LOWER RESOLUTION OF THE CONTRIBUTING
SOLUTIONS.  THE FORECAST WILL LEAN HARD ON A COMPROMISE OF THE ECMWF
AND GFS SOLUTIONS.

EXPECT A WARM-UP ON THURSDAY THAT WILL LINGER INTO FRIDAY...BEFORE A
COLD FRONT AND HEIGHT FALLS SLIP IN FROM THE WEST FOR NEXT WEEKEND.
THE BEST PRECIPITATION CHANCES WILL BE FRIDAY NIGHT AND SATURDAY.
SUNDAY STILL REMAINS MORE UNCERTAIN BUT WILL GRANT A LITTLE MORE
WEIGHT TO THE ECMWF SOLUTION AND KEEP IT DRY.

&&

.MARINE...

THUNDERSTORMS WILL BE ROLLING THROUGH THE CENTRAL GREAT LAKES THIS
EVENING...WITH A GOOD CHANCE OF ADDITIONAL ACTIVITY ON MONDAY.

ENOUGH OF A SOUTHWEST GRADIENT DEVELOPED TO ALLOW FOR WIND GUSTS TO
25 KNOTS OVER LAKE ST CLAIR AND WESTERN LAKE ERIE. THIS MAY OCCUR
ONCE AGAIN TOMORROW AFTERNOON AHEAD OF A SURFACE LOW WHICH WILL
TRACK THROUGH THE AREA MONDAY NIGHT. WEAKER GRADIENT AND MORE STABLE
MARINE LAYER HAS PREVENTED WINDS FROM EXCEEDING 15 KNOTS OVER LAKE
HURON. QUIET WEATHER WILL FOLLOW FOR THE MIDWEEK PERIOD AS HIGH
PRESSURE BUILDS INTO THE REGION.

&&

.PREV DISCUSSION...ISSUED 113 PM EDT SUN JUN 8 2008

AVIATION...

THUNDERSTORMS ARE EXPECTED TO DEVELOP LATE THIS AFTERNOON OVER
SOUTHEAST MICHIGAN...CONTINUING INTO AT LEAST THE EVENING HOURS.
STORMS LOOK TO BE MOST PREVALENT AT FNT/MBS. THERE IS A GOOD
CHANCE SEVERAL STORMS OVER SOUTHEAST MICHIGAN WILL BE
SEVERE...PRODUCING DAMAGING WINDS. CONFIDENCE DETERIORATES
OVERNIGHT AND TOMORROW MORNING ON THE EVOLUTION OF THUNDERSTORMS.
WITH LOW CONFIDENCE...WILL ERR ON THE OPTIMISTIC SIDE AND CARRY
VFR CONDITIONS...AS AVIATION CONDITIONS BEHIND LAST NIGHTS MCS

&&

.DTX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
MI...NONE.

LAKE HURON...NONE.

LAKE ST CLAIR...
     SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY...UNTIL 8 PM SUNDAY.

MI WATERS OF LAKE ERIE...
     SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY...UNTIL 8 PM SUNDAY.

&&

SHORT TERM...SF
LONG TERM....MANN
MARINE.......SF
AVIATION.....SF

YOU CAN OBTAIN YOUR LATEST NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FORECASTS ONLINE
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Hazardous weather outlook, Jun 8, 8:10 AM EST, 8 hours 20 minutes before
HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DETROIT/PONTIAC MI
910 AM EDT SUN JUN 8 2008

MIZ047>049-053>055-060>063-068>070-075-076-082-083-090915-
MIDLAND-BAY-HURON-SAGINAW-TUSCOLA-SANILAC-SHIAWASSEE-GENESEE-LAPEER-
ST. CLAIR-LIVINGSTON-OAKLAND-MACOMB-WASHTENAW-WAYNE-LENAWEE-MONROE-
910 AM EDT SUN JUN 8 2008

THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR SOUTHEAST MICHIGAN.

.DAY ONE...TODAY AND TONIGHT

SCATTERED TO NUMEROUS THUNDERSTORMS ARE EXPECTED TO DEVELOP BY LATE
THIS AFTERNOON AND CONTINUE INTO TONIGHT...WITH THE MOST NUMEROUS
COVERAGE EXPECTED ALONG AND NORTH OF M59. CONDITIONS APPEAR
FAVORABLE FOR SEVERE WEATHER WITH THE DEGREE OF INSTABILITY
EXPECTED...AS TEMPERATURES SOAR INTO THE UPPER 80S TO MID
90S...PRODUCING HEAT INDICES AROUND 100 DEGREES FOR A SHORT PERIOD.
THE MAIN HAZARD WITH THE THUNDERSTORMS WILL BE DAMAGING WIND GUSTS
TO 70 MPH AND TORRENTIAL RAINFALL. HOWEVER...ISOLATED TORNADOES AND
LARGE HAIL AROUND ONE INCH IN DIAMETER REMAIN A CONCERN.
STORM MOTION IS EXPECTED TO BE NORTHEAST AT 40 MPH.

.DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY

THERE IS A CHANCE OF THUNDERSTORMS MONDAY AND TUESDAY AS A SERIES
OF UPPER LEVEL DISTURBANCES MOVE THROUGH THE REGION. A FEW OF
THESE STORMS MAY BECOME SEVERE ON MONDAY. ANY ACTIVITY WILL AGAIN
BE FOCUSED DURING THE LATE AFTERNOON AND EVENING HOURS.

THERE WILL BE A CHANCE OF THUNDERSTORMS THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH
SATURDAY MORNING AS THE NEXT TROUGH OF LOW PRESSURE ADVANCES INTO
THE UPPER MIDWEST.

.SPOTTER INFORMATION STATEMENT...

SPOTTER ACTIVATION WILL PROBABLY BE NEEDED LATE THIS AFTERNOON INTO
TONIGHT.

LCZ422-423-460-LEZ444-LHZ361>363-421-422-441>443-462>464-090915-
ST. CLAIR RIVER-DETROIT RIVER-LAKE ST. CLAIR-
MICHIGAN WATERS OF LAKE ERIE FROM DETROIT RIVER TO NORTH CAPE MI-
LAKE HURON FROM 5NM EAST OF MACKINAC BRIDGE TO PRESQUE ISLE LT
BEYOND 5 NM OFF SHORE-
LAKE HURON FROM PRESQUE ISLE LIGHT TO STURGEON POINT MI BEYOND 5NM
OFF SHORE-
LAKE HURON FROM STURGEON POINT TO ALABASTER MI BEYOND 5NM OFF SHORE-
OUTER SAGINAW BAY SW OF ALABASTER TO PORT AUSTIN MI TO INNER SAGINAW
BAY-INNER SAGINAW BAY SW OF POINT AU GRES TO BAY PORT MI-
PORT AUSTIN TO HARBOR BEACH MI-HARBOR BEACH TO PORT SANILAC MI-
PORT SANILAC TO PORT HURON MI-
LAKE HURON FROM PORT AUSTIN TO HARBOR BEACH BEYOND 5NM OFF SHORE-
LAKE HURON FROM HARBOR BEACH TO PORT SANILAC BEYOND 5NM OFF SHORE-
LAKE HURON FROM PORT SANILAC TO PORT HURON BEYOND 5NM OFF SHORE-
910 AM EDT SUN JUN 8 2008

THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR PORTIONS OF LAKE ERIE...LAKE
HURON AND LAKE ST CLAIR.

.DAY ONE...TODAY AND TONIGHT

SCATTERED TO NUMEROUS THUNDERSTORMS ARE EXPECTED THIS AFTERNOON INTO
TONIGHT. A FEW OF THESE STORMS MAY BE SEVERE. STORMS WILL MOVE
NORTHEAST AT 40 MPH.

.DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY

THERE IS A CHANCE OF THUNDERSTORMS MONDAY AND TUESDAY AS A SERIES
OF UPPER LEVEL DISTURBANCES MOVE THROUGH THE REGION. A FEW OF
THESE STORMS MAY BECOME SEVERE ON MONDAY. ANY ACTIVITY WILL AGAIN
BE FOCUSED DURING THE LATE AFTERNOON AND EVENING HOURS.

THERE WILL BE A CHANCE OF THUNDERSTORMS THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH
SATURDAY MORNING AS THE NEXT TROUGH OF LOW PRESSURE ADVANCES INTO
THE UPPER MIDWEST.

.SPOTTER INFORMATION STATEMENT...

SPOTTER ACTIVATION WILL PROBABLY BE NEEDED LATE THIS AFTERNOON INTO
TONIGHT.

CB/SF
YOU CAN OBTAIN YOUR LATEST NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FORECASTS ONLINE
AT WWW.WEATHER.GOV/DETROIT (ALL LOWER CASE).

In the hours before

Local storm report, Jun 8, 3:20 PM EST, 1 hour 10 minutes before
PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DETROIT/PONTIAC MI
420 PM EDT SUN JUN 08 2008

..TIME...   ...EVENT...      ...CITY LOCATION...     ...LAT.LON...
..DATE...   ....MAG....      ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE....
            ..REMARKS..

0353 PM     TSTM WND DMG     FREELAND                43.52N 84.12W
06/08/2008                   SAGINAW            MI   STORM CHASER

            LARGE TREE LIMBS DOWN

&&
Local storm report, Jun 8, 3:37 PM EST, 53 minutes before
PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DETROIT/PONTIAC MI
437 PM EDT SUN JUN 08 2008

..TIME...   ...EVENT...      ...CITY LOCATION...     ...LAT.LON...
..DATE...   ....MAG....      ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE....
            ..REMARKS..

0402 PM     TSTM WND GST     6 W CHESANING           43.18N 84.24W
06/08/2008  E70 MPH          SAGINAW            MI   STORM CHASER

            ESTIMATED 70 MPH WIND GUST

&&
Local storm report, Jun 8, 3:50 PM EST, 40 minutes before
PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DETROIT/PONTIAC MI
450 PM EDT SUN JUN 08 2008

..TIME...   ...EVENT...      ...CITY LOCATION...     ...LAT.LON...
..DATE...   ....MAG....      ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE....
            ..REMARKS..

0435 PM     FUNNEL CLOUD     2 S ARGENTINE           42.76N 83.83W
06/08/2008                   LIVINGSTON         MI   AMATEUR RADIO

            ROOF OFF BARN

&&

MH/HLO
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4 marine thunderstorm wind. Local standard time, as filed.

Marine Thunderstorm Wind, Lake St Clair (U.S. Portion)

When
June 8, 4:30 PM EST
Where
Lake St Clair (U.S. Portion) forecast zone, St Clair Shores
Measured
42 kt (48 mph) measured gust
Reported by
ASOS
Coordinates
42.300, -82.870

Marine Thunderstorm Wind, Lake St Clair (U.S. Portion)

When
June 8, 4:35 PM EST
Where
Lake St Clair (U.S. Portion) forecast zone, 3.78 mi SSE of Metropolitan Beach
Measured
53 kt (61 mph) measured gust
Reported by
ASOS
Coordinates
42.420, -82.790

Marine Thunderstorm Wind, Detroit River

When
June 8, 4:36 PM EST
Where
Detroit River forecast zone, Wyandotte
Measured
46 kt (53 mph) measured gust
Reported by
Trained Spotter
Coordinates
42.200, -83.170

Marine Thunderstorm Wind, St Clair River

When
June 8, 4:36 PM EST to 4:41 PM EST
Where
St Clair River forecast zone, Algonac to 4 mi SW of Port Huron
Measured
74 kt (85 mph) estimated gust
Property damage
$100,000
Reported by
Trained Spotter
Coordinates
42.620, -82.530

Boats reported overturned in Algonac.

What these are

Marine Thunderstorm Wind
Thunderstorm winds of 34 knots or more over coastal or lake waters.

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The same day elsewhere

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Sources

NOAA National Centers for Environmental Information, Storm Events Database, compiled from the National Weather Service’s monthly Storm Data. Complete through 2026-06; NCEI adds each month about 75 days after it ends and revises past years a few times a year. Rebuilt 2026-10-01. Each event’s entry at NCEI: 110765, 110766, 110768, 110769.