New York, 2017

Lake-Effect Snow in New York, December 25 to 26, 2017

December 25 to 26, 2017 · NWS ALY · 2 events in 2 counties and zones

Conditions were favorable for a significant lake effect snow event across Herkimer and Hamilton counties in New York. A single snowband developed off of Lake Ontario which persisted into Herkimer and Hamilton counties for over two days.

Where it happened

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The toll

Deaths
0
Injuries
0
Property damage
None recorded
Crop damage
None recorded
Events
2

Deaths and injuries are direct and indirect together, as the offices filed them. Damage is property and crops in the dollars of the year, not adjusted for inflation, and only where an office estimated it.

What happened

The episode as NWS ALY wrote it up.

Conditions were favorable for a significant lake effect snow event across Herkimer and Hamilton counties in New York. A single snowband developed off of Lake Ontario which persisted into Herkimer and Hamilton counties for over two days. Total snow amounts ranged from 17.5 inches near Eagle Bay to 29.0 inches in Old Forge.

What forecasters said that day

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NWS Albany, NY wrote its last area forecast discussion before the first event at Dec 25, 9:40 AM EST, 1 hour 20 minutes earlier.

Area forecast discussion, Dec 25, 9:40 AM EST, 1 hour 20 minutes before
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Event by event

2 lake-effect snow. Local standard time, as filed.

Lake-Effect Snow, Northern Herkimer

When
December 25, 11:00 AM EST to December 26, 9:00 PM EST
Where
Northern Herkimer forecast zone
Reported by
Trained Spotter
Coordinates
43.420, -74.962 (the zone’s center; the record gives no point)

Storm total snow measurements ranged from 20.0 inches in Old Forge to 29.0 inches 1 mile SSE of Old Forge.

Lake-Effect Snow, Hamilton

When
December 25, 11:00 AM EST to December 26, 9:00 PM EST
Where
Hamilton forecast zone
Reported by
Trained Spotter
Coordinates
43.661, -74.497 (the zone’s center; the record gives no point)

A trained spotter reported 17.5 inches of total snowfall 1 mile ENE of Eagle Bay.

What these are

Lake-Effect Snow
Heavy snow in bands downwind of a large lake as cold air crosses warmer water.

After NWS Directive 10-1605, the rules offices file Storm Data by.

The same day elsewhere

More

Every storm in New York in 2017Every state in 2017This day in weather historyWarnings in New York, December 2017

Sources

NOAA National Centers for Environmental Information, Storm Events Database, compiled from the National Weather Service’s monthly Storm Data. Complete through 2026-06; NCEI adds each month about 75 days after it ends and revises past years a few times a year. Rebuilt 2026-10-01. Each event’s entry at NCEI: 730240, 730241.