North Carolina, 2017

Hail and Damaging Wind in North Carolina, September 20, 2017

September 20, 2017 · NWS GSP · 4 events in 2 counties and zones

Scattered thunderstorms developed during the late afternoon across the high terrain of western North Carolina. A couple of the storms briefly became strong to severe, producing hail up to the size of half dollars.

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The toll

Deaths
0
Injuries
0
Property damage
None recorded
Crop damage
None recorded
Events
4

Deaths and injuries are direct and indirect together, as the offices filed them. Damage is property and crops in the dollars of the year, not adjusted for inflation, and only where an office estimated it.

What happened

The episode as NWS GSP wrote it up.

Scattered thunderstorms developed during the late afternoon across the high terrain of western North Carolina. A couple of the storms briefly became strong to severe, producing hail up to the size of half dollars.

What forecasters said that day

The local office's own words before the first event, as it sent them, from the Iowa Environmental Mesonet's archive of National Weather Service text.

NWS Greenville-Spartanburg, SC wrote its last area forecast discussion before the first event at Sep 20, 1:38 PM EST, 1 hour 52 minutes earlier.

Area forecast discussion, Sep 20, 1:38 PM EST, 1 hour 52 minutes before
Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Greenville-Spartanburg SC
238 PM EDT Wed Sep 20 2017

.SYNOPSIS...
A weak trough will move east of the area tonight and settle along
the southeast coast on Thursday. A gradual increase in more moist,
easterly flow is expected through the latter part of the work week.
Drier and stronger high pressure will settle across the region over
the weekend and likely persist through early next week, as Tropical
Systems Jose and Maria remain off the east coast.

&&

.NEAR TERM /THROUGH THURSDAY/...
As of 230 PM: A weak ridge of high pressure is still present
over the region, though a well-defined shortwave trough is
centered over SW VA. Vort lobes embedded within the trough are
expected to rotate through the area this aftn and evening. Warm
temps and good lapse rates within the trough have allowed
1500-2000 J/kg of SBCAPE to develop, per SPC mesoanalysis.
Initiation has been spotty so far, with deeper cumulus over the
mountain ridges but also in an area of enhanced convergence
southeast of I-85, just ahead of the trough. Meso models have
not done an especially good job so far today, being overdone
with convection for the most part, though the HRRR has done a
reasonable job of highlighting the two areas where radar echoes
have developed so far. Thus, the revised PoPs are close to the
previous values, blending in a bit of meso model output to
reflect the expected coverage. It is not out of the question
that the most vigorous couple storms could produce a damaging
microburst given the dry air wrapped into the shortwave. Shear
is just enough to expect storms to propagate slowly along
outflows. All this activity will diminish diurnally, despite the
shortwave taking its time moving southeast thru the region
tonight. Under partly cloudy to mostly clear skies, but
continued moist sfc conditions, min temps will remain 4-6
degrees above normal. Expect some fog in the mtn valleys and in
the more fog-prone areas of the Piedmont.

A sharp ridge of high pressure will build over the inland parts
of the eastern CONUS on Thursday, while the shortwave will remain
on our southeast flank. Though the high will bring N to NE flow,
thermal advection is basically neutral, so max temps will remain
6 to 8 degrees above normal. Lapse rates won't be quite as good in
the wake of the shortwave, but respectable instability still will
develop. Models mainly key on terrain as an initiation mechanism,
leading to chance range PoPs over the mountains and slight chance
in the Piedmont. Profiles feature a bit more moisture aloft but
sfc-midlevel theta-E lapses are progged to be sufficient for a tiny,
but nonzero, threat of damaging winds.

&&

.SHORT TERM /THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY/...
As of 155 PM EDT Wednesday: An upper level trough axis will settle
along the southeast coastline Friday and linger through Saturday, as
a 590 dm ridge axis sets up from the Great Lakes to the MS Valley.
Low level easterly flow continues Friday into Saturday which should
help to focus the highest chance PoPs along the eastern slopes of
the mountains. Thus anticipate mainly diurnal, scattered ridge
top/eastern mountain convection both days with weak forcing and
limited moisture. Drier air moves into the NC Piedmont on this flow
Saturday limiting precip chances there, with better chances
remaining over the mountains, western Upstate and NE GA. SBCAPE
values should steadily recover to 1000 to 1500 J/kg across the
mountains to support a scattered thunder mention. Instability will
be lower elsewhere but high enough for thunder. Highs will be nearly
steady around 5 degrees above normal both days. With lows around 5
degrees above normal Friday morning falling a couple of degrees
Saturday morning.

&&

.LONG TERM /SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY/...
As of 155 PM EDT Wednesday: the extended fcst picks up at 00z on
Sunday with persistent and highly amplified upper ridging in place
over the Eastern CONUS and steep upper trofing over the west. The
trof will gradually slide eastward thru the period and will begin to
flatten the ridge by the end of the period. At the sfc, very broad
high pressure will be in place to start the period. The remnants of
TS Jose will still be lingering off the New England Coast while TS
Maria is currently forecast to be due east of the Bahamas by early
Sunday. Maria is still expected to remain far enough off the east
coast to not have significant impacts on our fcst area. We will
remain under broad high pressure thru day 7 with predominately dry,
N to NELY low-lvl flow expected to persist. A cold front is expected
to approach the fcst area just beyond the fcst period early Thurs.
As for the sensible fcst, no major changes were needed. The period
should be mostly dry with temperatures starting out about a category
above normal and warming a few more degrees by the end of the period.

&&

.AVIATION /19Z WEDNESDAY THROUGH MONDAY/...
At KCLT and Elsewhere: Expecting some SHRA/TSRA this aftn in mainly
two areas, near the Blue Ridge as well as the lower Piedmont. A
TEMPO is included at KCLT and KHKY, and VCSH at KAVL. Otherwise
just low VFR cumulus will be seen; these and the precip will
diminish by sunset. Winds will be quite VRB this aftn, but as a
shortwave trough exits the area and is replaced by high pressure
from the north, they will tend to veer with time, becoming N by
late evening. Fog again is progged in the mtn valleys and outlying
areas of the Piedmont; TEMPO IFR is included at KAVL.

Outlook: Chances for diurnally favored showers and thunderstorms
remain in the fcst Thursday and Friday. Restrictions from early
morning fog across the northern NC Piedmont and foothills, as well
as in the mtn valleys, will also be a concern. Drier weather is
expected to return for the weekend.

Confidence Table...

            18-24Z        00-06Z        06-12Z        12-18Z
KCLT       High 100%     High 100%     High 100%     High 100%
KGSP       High 100%     High 100%     High 100%     High 100%
KAVL       High 100%     High  97%     Low   51%     High  81%
KHKY       High 100%     High 100%     High  97%     High  97%
KGMU       High 100%     High 100%     High 100%     High 100%
KAND       High 100%     High 100%     High  97%     High  91%

The percentage reflects the number of guidance members agreeing
with the scheduled TAF issuance flight rule category. Complete hourly
experimental aviation forecast consistency tables and ensemble forecasts
are available at the following link:

www.weather.gov/gsp/aviation

&&

.GSP WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
GA...None.
NC...None.
SC...None.

&&

SYNOPSIS...JPT
NEAR TERM...Wimberley
SHORT TERM...RWH
LONG TERM...JPT
AVIATION...Wimberley
Hazardous weather outlook, Sep 20, 3:53 AM EST, 11 hours 37 minutes before
Hazardous Weather Outlook
National Weather Service Greenville-Spartanburg SC
453 AM EDT Wed Sep 20 2017

GAZ010-017-018-026-028-029-NCZ033-035>037-048>053-056>059-062>065-
068>072-082-501>510-SCZ001>014-019-210900-
Rabun-Habersham-Stephens-Franklin-Hart-Elbert-Avery-Alexander-
Iredell-Davie-Madison-Yancey-Mitchell-Swain-Haywood-Buncombe-Catawba-
Rowan-Graham-Northern Jackson-Macon-Southern Jackson-Transylvania-
Henderson-Cleveland-Lincoln-Gaston-Mecklenburg-Cabarrus-Union-
Caldwell Mountains-Greater Caldwell-Burke Mountains-Greater Burke-
McDowell Mountains-Eastern McDowell-Rutherford Mountains-
Greater Rutherford-Polk Mountains-Eastern Polk-Oconee Mountains-
Pickens Mountains-Greenville Mountains-Greater Oconee-
Greater Pickens-Greater Greenville-Spartanburg-Cherokee-York-
Anderson-Abbeville-Laurens-Chester-Greenwood-
453 AM EDT Wed Sep 20 2017

This Hazardous Weather Outlook is for northeast Georgia, piedmont
North Carolina, western North Carolina and upstate South Carolina.

.DAY ONE...Today and Tonight.

Isolated to scattered thunderstorms will develop around the region
this afternoon and evening. The main threat with any thunderstorms
will be a few cloud-to-ground lightning strikes. A few of the
stronger thunderstorms could also produce briefly gusty winds and
small hail.

.DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...Thursday through Tuesday.

..Thursday...No hazardous weather is expected at this time.
..Friday...No hazardous weather is expected at this time.
..Saturday...No hazardous weather is expected at this time.
..Sunday...No hazardous weather is expected at this time.
..Monday...No hazardous weather is expected at this time.
..Tuesday...No hazardous weather is expected at this time.

.SPOTTER INFORMATION STATEMENT...

None.

HG

In the hours before

Special weather statement, Sep 20, 2:30 PM EST, 1 hour before
Special Weather Statement
National Weather Service Greenville-Spartanburg SC
330 PM EDT WED SEP 20 2017

NCZ052-059-202000-
Haywood NC-Northern Jackson NC-
330 PM EDT WED SEP 20 2017

...A STRONG THUNDERSTORM WILL IMPACT NORTHEASTERN JACKSON AND
SOUTHWESTERN HAYWOOD COUNTIES UNTIL 400 PM EDT...

At 329 PM EDT, Doppler radar was tracking a strong thunderstorm 7
miles northeast of Sylva, or near Balsam. This storm was nearly
stationary.

Locations to be impacted include...
Balsam, B.R. Parkway-Balsam Gap To Black Balsam Area, B.R.
Parkway-Smoky Mountains To Balsam Gap, Tuckasegee and Sunburst.

Wind gusts up to 40 mph, pea size hail and very heavy rainfall rates
up to 2 inches per hour will be possible in these areas.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

This storm may intensify, so be certain to monitor local radio and tv
stations, as well as local cable tv outlets for additional
information and possible warnings from the National Weather Service.

&&

LAT...LON 3544 8323 3552 8312 3541 8293 3525 8312
TIME...MOT...LOC 1929Z 318DEG 3KT 3543 8312

MOORE
Special weather statement, Sep 20, 3:05 PM EST, 25 minutes before
Special Weather Statement
National Weather Service Greenville-Spartanburg SC
405 PM EDT WED SEP 20 2017

NCZ064-202030-
Transylvania NC-
405 PM EDT WED SEP 20 2017

...A STRONG THUNDERSTORM WILL IMPACT NORTHEASTERN TRANSYLVANIA COUNTY
UNTIL 430 PM EDT...

At 405 PM EDT, Doppler radar was tracking a strong thunderstorm 4
miles northwest of Brevard, or near Looking Glass. This storm was
nearly stationary.

Locations to be impacted include...
Brevard, Looking Glass, Penrose and North Transylvania.

Wind gusts up to 40 mph, pea size hail and very heavy rainfall rates
up to 2 inches per hour will be possible in these areas.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

This storm may intensify, so be certain to monitor local radio and tv
stations, as well as local cable tv outlets for additional
information and possible warnings from the National Weather Service.

&&

LAT...LON 3526 8262 3517 8280 3532 8284 3532 8283
      3533 8283 3538 8272
TIME...MOT...LOC 2005Z 328DEG 3KT 3529 8276

MOORE
Special weather statement, Sep 20, 3:28 PM EST, 2 minutes before
Special Weather Statement
National Weather Service Greenville-Spartanburg SC
428 PM EDT WED SEP 20 2017

NCZ063-064-202100-
Transylvania NC-Southern Jackson NC-
428 PM EDT WED SEP 20 2017

...A STRONG THUNDERSTORM WILL IMPACT SOUTHWESTERN TRANSYLVANIA AND
SOUTHEASTERN JACKSON COUNTIES UNTIL 500 PM EDT...

At 428 PM EDT, Doppler radar was tracking a strong thunderstorm 17
miles southwest of Brevard, or 4 miles west of Lake Toxaway. This
storm was nearly stationary.

Locations to be impacted include...
Lake Toxaway, Gorges State Park and Sapphire.

Wind gusts up to 40 mph, half inch hail and very heavy rainfall rates
up to 2 inches per hour will be possible in these areas.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

This storm may intensify, so be certain to monitor local radio and tv
stations, as well as local cable tv outlets for additional
information and possible warnings from the National Weather Service.

&&

LAT...LON 3520 8305 3520 8290 3509 8285 3506 8289
      3505 8292 3504 8310
TIME...MOT...LOC 2028Z 359DEG 3KT 3513 8301

MOORE

The radar

The Greer radar (KGSP), 70 km away, was scanning. The volume nearest the first event began at 20:29 UTC.

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Event by event

3 hail, 1 thunderstorm wind. Local standard time, as filed.

Hail, Transylvania

When
September 20, 3:30 PM EST
Where
Transylvania County, 0.89 mi NW of Reid
Measured
0.75 in hail
Reported by
Trained Spotter
Coordinates
35.130, -82.930

Spotter reported 3/4 inch hail in the Lake Toxaway area.

Hail, Transylvania

When
September 20, 3:41 PM EST
Where
Transylvania County, 0.69 mi S of Oakland
Measured
1 in hail
Reported by
Public
Coordinates
35.110, -82.980

Public reported up to quarter size hail in the Burlingame community.

Thunderstorm Wind, Jackson

When
September 20, 4:01 PM EST
Where
Jackson County, 6.86 mi ESE of Grimeshawes
Measured
50 kt (58 mph) estimated gust
Reported by
Park/Forest Service
Coordinates
35.029, -83.016

Forest service personnel reported multiple large tree limbs blown down at the Whitewater Falls parking area off Highway 281.

Hail, Jackson

When
September 20, 4:02 PM EST
Where
Jackson County, 6.86 mi ESE of Grimeshawes
Measured
1.25 in hail
Reported by
Park/Forest Service
Coordinates
35.029, -83.016

Forest service personnel observed half dollar size hail at the Whitewater Falls parking area off Highway 281.

What these are

Hail
Hail three-quarters of an inch or larger, or smaller hail that caused damage, filed with the largest stone measured.
Thunderstorm Wind
Winds from a thunderstorm of 50 knots (58 mph) or more, or lower winds that caused damage or casualties. Measured gusts are marked MG, estimated EG.

After NWS Directive 10-1605, the rules offices file Storm Data by.

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Sources

NOAA National Centers for Environmental Information, Storm Events Database, compiled from the National Weather Service’s monthly Storm Data. Complete through 2026-06; NCEI adds each month about 75 days after it ends and revises past years a few times a year. Rebuilt 2026-09-24. Each event’s entry at NCEI: 722085, 722086, 722089, 722088.