Lake Superior, 2008Marine Thunderstorm Winds in Lake Superior, May 17, 2008
May 17, 2008 · NWS MQT · 4 events in 3 counties and zones
Thunderstorms produced strong winds over portions of western Lake Superior on the afternoon of the 17th.
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- Deaths
- 0
- Injuries
- 0
- Property damage
- None recorded
- Crop damage
- None recorded
- Events
- 4
Deaths and injuries are direct and indirect together, as the offices filed them. Damage is property and crops in the dollars of the year, not adjusted for inflation, and only where an office estimated it.
Thunderstorms produced strong winds over portions of western Lake Superior on the afternoon of the 17th.
What forecasters said that day
The local office's own words before the first event, as it sent them, from the Iowa Environmental Mesonet's archive of National Weather Service text.
NWS Marquette, MI wrote its last area forecast discussion before the first event at May 17, 12:45 PM EST, 2 hours 15 minutes earlier.
Area forecast discussion, May 17, 12:45 PM EST, 2 hours 15 minutes before
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MARQUETTE MI
145 PM EDT SAT MAY 17 2008
UPDATED FOR 18Z AVIATION DISCUSSION
.UPDATE...
A SMALL BAND OF SHRA THAT HAS PRODUCED PEA-SIZED HAIL SUPPORTED BY A
WEAK SHORTWAVE TROUGH IN NW FLOW AROUND THE NRN ONTARIO MID LEVEL
LOW...SHOULD EXIT SRN UPPER MI BY AROUND 17Z. SOME ISOLATED CG
LIGHTNING STRIKES HAVE ALSO BEEN OBSERVED ALONG AND SOUTH OF US-2 IN
MENOMINEE COUNTY. THE SHOWERS WERE RELATIVELY SHALLOW WITH ECHO TOPS
MAINLY AOB 20K FT.
IN ADDITION TO SCT -SHRA IN THE GOING FCST...MENTION OF ISOLATED
TSRA WAS ADDED FOR COUNTIES OF UPPER MI ADJOINING THE WI BORDER
WHERE THE GREATEST INSTABILITY IS EXPECTED. STEEP MID LEVEL LAPSE
RATES IN THE 7.5 TO 8.0 C/KM RANGE AND MODIFIED SOUNDINGS WITH
SURFACE TEMPS IN THE MID 60S AND DEWPOINTS IN THE MID 30S GIVE
MLCAPE VALUES IN THE 300-500 J/KG RANGE. WITH LOW WET-BULB ZERO
HEIGHTS NEAR 4K-5K FT...SMALL HAIL COULD ACCOMPANY THE SHOWERS. HAIL
SIZED JUST BLO SVR LIMITS (3/4 INCH) MAY BE POSSIBLE WITH LCL
STRONGER SHOWERS/TSRA.
.SYNOPSIS...
WV IMAGERY AND RUC ANALYSIS SHOWS NW MID/UPPER LEVEL FLOW THROUGH
THE UPR GREAT LAKES BTWN A TROUGH OVER HUDSON BAY AND A RIDGE OVER
WRN NOAM. A VIGOROUS SHORTWAVE TROUGH WAS MOVING THROUGH UPR MI
EARLY THIS MORNING. THE MAIN AREA OF SHOWERS ASSOCIATED WITH THE
SHORTWAVE AND SFC COLD FRONT HAVE MOVED EAST OF THE FCST AREA.
ANOTHER WEAKER PIECE OF SHORTWAVE ENERGY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE
SCATTERED SHOWERS LINGERING OVER THE WRN FCST AREA.
DISCUSSION...
WEAK SHORTWAVES MOVING THROUGH THE MID LEVEL NW FLOW...DIURNAL
HEATING/INSTABILITY ALONG WITH STEEP 700-500 MB LAPSE RATES NEAR 7.5
C/KM WILL BE FAVORABLE FOR SCT SHRA...ESPECIALLY IN THE AFTERNOON.
AREAS DOWNWIND FROM LAKE SUPERIOR WILL BE STABILIZED BY COOLER
MARINE AIR. KEPT CLOSE TO BLEND OF GFS AND NAM MOS GUIDANCE FOR HIGH
TEMPS.
A SHORTWAVE MOVING DOWN FROM NRN MANITOBA THIS EVENING MAY
SUSTAIN SCATTERED SHOWERS ESPECIALLY NEAR THE WI BORDER...WHILE A
ANOTHER SHORTWAVE LOBE WRAPPING BACK AROUND THE CLOSED LOW COULD
BRING ANOTHER BATCH OF SCATTERED SHOWERS LATE TONIGHT INTO SUNDAY TO
THE ERN COUNTIES OF THE CWFA.
LOOK FOR ISOLATED SHOWERS TO TAPER OFF OVER THE ERN COUNTIES SUN
EVENING. PARTIAL CLEARING OVER THE WRN INTERIOR AND RADIATIONAL
COOLING COULD LEAD TO AREAS OF FROST LATE SUN NIGHT...ESPECIALLY FOR
SHELTERED COLD SPOT LOCATIONS.
MODELS HAVE TRENDED SLOWER AND FARTHER SOUTH WITH SHORTWAVE MOVING
IN LATE MON/MON NIGHT. THUS...WILL KEEP DRY FCST GOING FOR MON AND
TRIM BACK SLIGHT CHC POPS MON NIGHT FOR JUST WRN AND CENTRAL
COUNTIES.
&&
.AVIATION (FOR THE 18Z TAF ISSUANCE)...
VFR CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED EVEN THOUGH SOME DIURNAL SHOWERS MAY
MOVE THROUGH THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING. A BRIEF PERIOD OF MVFR VSBY
MAY BE POSSIBLE IF A STRONGER SHOWER DEVELOPS. GUSTY NORTHWEST WINDS
ARE EXPECTED AT KCMX INTO SUNDAY. GREATER INLAND COOLING AT KSAW
WILL ALLOW WINDS TO DIMINISH TIL HEATING INCREASES AGAIN SUN MORNING.
&&
.MARINE (FOR THE 4 AM LAKE SUPERIOR FORECAST ISSUANCE)...
WINDS OVER LAKE SUPERIOR WILL STAY BLO 30 KNOTS TODAY AS WIND
GRADIENT NOT AS TIGHT AS PREVIOUS EXPECTED. ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE
LOW ON SUNDAY...COOLER AIR WILL ALLOW PART OF THE LOW LEVEL JET TO
MIX DOWN MAINLY OVER THE EASTERN LAKE. AN OCCASIONAL GUST TO 35
KNOTS WILL BE POSSIBLE THERE. ON MONDAY WINDS WILL SHIFT SOUTH AS
THE NEXT SYSTEM APPROACHES THE LAKE...BRINGING WARMER AND MORE
STABLE AIR TO THE LAKE. WINDS SHOULD STAY LESS THAN 25 KNOTS. AFTER
THE LOW MOVES THROUGH ON TUESDAY THE WINDS WILL VEER NORTHWEST
AGAIN. GRADIENTS SHOULD REMAIN WEAK ENOUGH TO LIMIT WINDS TO 20
KNOTS OR LESS.
&&
.MQT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
UPPER MICHIGAN...NONE.
LAKE SUPERIOR...NONE.
LAKE MICHIGAN...NONE.
&&
UPDATE...JLB
SYNOPSIS/DISCUSSION...VOSS
AVIATION...JLB
MARINE...DLG
Hazardous weather outlook, May 17, 10:59 AM EST, 4 hours 1 minute before
HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MARQUETTE MI
1159 AM EDT SAT MAY 17 2008
MIZ001>007-009>014-084-085-181200-
KEWEENAW-ONTONAGON-NORTHERN HOUGHTON-BARAGA-MARQUETTE-ALGER-LUCE-
GOGEBIC-IRON-DICKINSON-MENOMINEE-DELTA-SOUTHERN SCHOOLCRAFT-
SOUTHERN HOUGHTON-NORTHERN SCHOOLCRAFT-
1159 AM EDT SAT MAY 17 2008 /1059 AM CDT SAT MAY 17 2008/
THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR PORTIONS OF WESTERN UPPER
MICHIGAN AND CENTRAL UPPER MICHIGAN.
.DAY ONE...REST OF TODAY AND TONIGHT
THUNDERSTORMS ARE POSSIBLE OVER SOUTHERN UPPER MICHIGAN TODAY...
MAINLY NEAR THE WISCONSIN BORDER. THE THUNDERSTORMS MAY PRODUCE
SMALL HAIL UP TO A HALF INCH ALONG WITH BRIEF GUSTY WINDS TO 35
MPH.
.DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...SUNDAY THROUGH FRIDAY
NO HAZARDOUS WEATHER IS EXPECTED AT THIS TIME.
.SPOTTER INFORMATION STATEMENT...
SPOTTER ACTIVATION WILL NOT BE NEEDED.
LSZ162-240>251-263>267-181200-
LAKE SUPERIOR WEST OF A LINE FROM SAXON HARBOR WI TO GRAND
PORTAGE MN BEYOND 5NM-SAXON HARBOR WI TO BLACK RIVER MI-
BLACK RIVER TO ONTONAGON MI-
ONTONAGON TO UPPER ENTRANCE OF PORTAGE CANAL MI-
UPPER ENTRANCE OF PORTAGE CANAL TO EAGLE RIVER MI-
EAGLE RIVER TO MANITOU ISLAND MI-
MANITOU ISLAND TO POINT ISABELLE MI-
POINT ISABELLE TO LOWER ENTRANCE OF PORTAGE CANAL MI-
LOWER ENTRANCE OF PORTAGE CANAL TO HURON ISLANDS MI INCLUDING
KEWEENAW AND HURON BAYS-HURON ISLANDS TO MARQUETTE MI-
MARQUETTE TO MUNISING MI-MUNISING TO GRAND MARAIS MI-
GRAND MARAIS TO WHITEFISH POINT MI-
LAKE SUPERIOR FROM SAXON HARBOR WI TO UPPER ENTRANCE TO PORTAGE
CANAL MI 5NM OFF SHORE TO THE US/CANADIAN BORDER INCLUDING ISLE
ROYALE NATIONAL PARK-
LAKE SUPERIOR FROM UPPER ENTRANCE TO PORTAGE CANAL TO MANITOU
ISLAND MI 5NM OFF SHORE TO THE US/CANADIAN BORDER-
LAKE SUPERIOR WEST OF LINE FROM MANITOU ISLAND TO MARQUETTE MI
BEYOND 5NM FROM SHORE-
LAKE SUPERIOR EAST OF A LINE FROM MANITOU ISLAND TO MARQUETTE MI
AND WEST OF A LINE FROM GRAND MARAIS MI TO THE US/CANADIAN BORDER
BEYOND 5NM FROM SHORE-
LAKE SUPERIOR FROM GRAND MARAIS MI TO WHITEFISH POINT MI 5NM OFF
SHORE TO THE US/CANADIAN BORDER-
1159 AM EDT SAT MAY 17 2008 /1059 AM CDT SAT MAY 17 2008/
THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR PORTIONS OF EASTERN LAKE
SUPERIOR...CENTRAL LAKE SUPERIOR AND WESTERN LAKE SUPERIOR.
.DAY ONE...REST OF TODAY AND TONIGHT
NO HAZARDOUS WEATHER IS EXPECTED AT THIS TIME.
.DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...SUNDAY THROUGH FRIDAY
NO HAZARDOUS WEATHER IS EXPECTED AT THIS TIME.
.SPOTTER INFORMATION STATEMENT...
SPOTTER ACTIVATION WILL NOT BE NEEDED.
LMZ221-248-250-181200-
GREEN BAY NORTH OF LINE FROM CEDAR RIVER MI TO ROCK ISLAND
PASSAGE-SEUL CHOIX POINT TO POINT DETOUR MI-
5NM EAST OF A LINE FROM FAIRPORT MI TO ROCK ISLAND PASSAGE-
1159 AM EDT SAT MAY 17 2008
THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR PORTIONS OF NORTHERN LAKE
LAKE MICHIGAN.
.DAY ONE...REST OF TODAY AND TONIGHT
NO HAZARDOUS WEATHER IS EXPECTED AT THIS TIME.
.DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...SUNDAY THROUGH FRIDAY
NO HAZARDOUS WEATHER IS EXPECTED AT THIS TIME.
.SPOTTER INFORMATION STATEMENT...
SPOTTER ACTIVATION WILL NOT BE NEEDED.
In the hours before
Special weather statement, May 17, 12:36 PM EST, 2 hours 24 minutes before
SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MARQUETTE MI
136 PM EDT SAT MAY 17 2008
MIZ013-014-171800-
DELTA-SOUTHERN SCHOOLCRAFT-
136 PM EDT SAT MAY 17 2008
...SIGNIFICANT WEATHER ALERT FOR DELTA AND SCHOOLCRAFT COUNTIES UNTIL
200 PM EDT...
AT 134 PM EDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR WAS TRACKING A
STRONG THUNDERSTORM 10 MILES NORTHWEST OF MANISTIQUE. THIS STORM WAS
MOVING SOUTHEAST AT 37 MPH.
ONE HALF INCH DIAMETER HAIL AND WINDS UP TO 40 MPH HAVE ALREADY BEEN
REPORTED WITH THIS STORM.
* LOCATIONS IN OR NEAR THE PATH OF THIS STORM INCLUDE...
COOKS.
INDIAN LAKE STATE PARK.
MANISTIQUE.
STAY TUNED TO NOAA WEATHER RADIO...COMMERCIAL RADIO...OR YOUR LOCAL
TELEVISION STATIONS FOR LATER STATEMENTS AND POSSIBLE WARNINGS
CONCERNING THIS WEATHER SITUATION.
TG
Local storm report, May 17, 1:31 PM EST, 1 hour 29 minutes before
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</html>Marine Thunderstorm Wind, Saxon Harbor Wi to Upper Entrance of Portage Canal Mi 5nm Offshore to Us/Canadian Border Inc Isle Royal Np
- When
- May 17, 3:00 PM EST to 3:05 PM EST
- Where
- Saxon Harbor Wi to Upper Entrance of Portage Canal Mi 5nm Offshore to Us/Canadian Border Inc Isle Royal Np forecast zone, 7.98 mi NNW of Rock of Ages Light
- Measured
- 46 kt (53 mph) measured gust
- Reported by
- C-MAN Station
- Coordinates
- 47.866, -89.315
The Rock of Ages C-MAN station measured a 46-knot wind gust.
Marine Thunderstorm Wind, Ontonagon to Upper Entrance of Portage Canal Mi
- When
- May 17, 3:56 PM EST to 4:00 PM EST
- Where
- Ontonagon to Upper Entrance of Portage Canal Mi forecast zone, 0.49 mi N of Beacon Hill
- Measured
- 35 kt (40 mph) measured sustained
- Reported by
- Trained Spotter
- Coordinates
- 47.137, -88.820
The spotter at Freda measured a sustained wind at 40 mph with gusts to 48 mph.
Marine Thunderstorm Wind, Black River to Ontonagon Mi
- When
- May 17, 4:10 PM EST to 4:15 PM EST
- Where
- Black River to Ontonagon Mi forecast zone, 6.09 mi SE of Union Bay Beach
- Measured
- 36 kt (41 mph) measured gust
- Reported by
- Mesonet
- Coordinates
- 46.876, -89.328
The Ontonagon GLOS measured a 36-knot wind gust.
Marine Thunderstorm Wind, Ontonagon to Upper Entrance of Portage Canal Mi
- When
- May 17, 4:10 PM EST to 4:15 PM EST
- Where
- Ontonagon to Upper Entrance of Portage Canal Mi forecast zone, 9.93 mi SW of Ten Mile Point
- Measured
- 36 kt (41 mph) measured gust
- Reported by
- Mesonet
- Coordinates
- 46.876, -89.329
The Ontonagon GLOS measured a 36-knot wind gust.
After NWS Directive 10-1605, the rules offices file Storm Data by.
- Heat in Washington, May 17, 20082 deaths · 14 injured · 1 event
- Flooding in Washington, May 17 to 31, 2008$1.0 million · 5 events
- Damaging Winds in Michigan, May 17, 2008$35,000 · 52 kt wind · 10 events
- Lightning Strike in Wisconsin, May 17, 2008$20,000 · 1 event
- Strong Wind in Wisconsin, May 17, 20081 injured · 1 event
- Damaging Winds in Michigan, May 17, 200856 kt wind · 7 events
- Damaging Winds in Minnesota, May 17, 200860 kt wind · 5 events
- Tornado and Hail in New York, May 17, 2008$5,000 · EF0 · 3 events
- High Wind in Minnesota, May 17, 200851 kt wind · 2 events
- Hail in Wisconsin, May 17, 20081 in hail · 2 events
- Flood in Indiana, May 17 to 21, 2008$10,000 · 1 event
- Wildfire in Washington, May 17 to 23, 20081 event
NOAA National Centers for Environmental Information, Storm Events Database, compiled from the National Weather Service’s monthly Storm Data. Complete through 2026-06; NCEI adds each month about 75 days after it ends and revises past years a few times a year. Rebuilt 2026-09-30. Each event’s entry at NCEI: 100470, 100464, 100443, 100455.