Kansas, 2008

Flood in Kansas, October 23 to 25, 2008

October 23 to 25, 2008 · NWS DDC · 1 event in 1 county or zone

Excessive rainfall late on the 22nd resulted in creek flooding downstream from the original heavy rain area.

Where it happened

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The toll

Deaths
0
Injuries
0
Property damage
$100
Crop damage
$100,000
Events
1

Deaths and injuries are direct and indirect together, as the offices filed them. Damage is property and crops in the dollars of the year, not adjusted for inflation, and only where an office estimated it.

What happened

The episode as NWS DDC wrote it up.

Excessive rainfall late on the 22nd resulted in creek flooding downstream from the original heavy rain area.

What forecasters said that day

The local office's own words before the first event, as it sent them, from the Iowa Environmental Mesonet's archive of National Weather Service text.

NWS Dodge City, KS wrote its last area forecast discussion before the first event at Oct 23, 1:40 PM CST, 9 hours 50 minutes earlier.

Area forecast discussion, Oct 23, 1:40 PM CST, 9 hours 50 minutes before
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DODGE CITY KS
240 PM CDT THU OCT 23 2008

.DISCUSSION...

DAYS 1-2...

THE SIGNIFICANT FORECAST DECISIONS CENTER AROUND THE TIMING OF
ENDING THE CURRENT PRECIPITATION, AND THEN HOW FAST TO DECREASE
CLOUDS BEHIND THE PRECIP CLEARING.

A SURFACE ANALYSIS FROM 19Z SHOWED A STRONG BUT WEAKENING LOW
PRESSURE CENTER BETWEEN SLN AND MHK, MOVING VERY SLOWLY TO THE
EAST-SOUTHEAST.  AN OCCLUDED FRONT ARCHED FROM THE NORTH SIDE OF
THIS LOW EASTWARD THROUGH EASTERN NEBRASKA THEN SOUTHEAST TO
SOUTHEASTERN MISSOURI, WHERE IT TURNS INTO A COLD FRONT STRETCHING
SOUTH THROUGH MISSISSIPPI AND INTO THE GULF OF MEXICO. BOTH RADAR
AND SATL LOOPS CONFIRM A WELL DEFINED MID AND UPPER LEVEL LOW
PRESSURE CENTER NEAR THE SAME SURFACE CENTER LOCATION. THE
CIRCULATION AROUND THE UPPER AND LOWER LEVEL LOWS HAS RESULTED IN
WIDESPREAD -RA/-SN TODAY. NO SNOW ACCUMULATIONS HAVE BEEN HEARD OF
YET. THE NORTHEAST TIP OF MY CWA COULD SEE AN INCH OR TWO BEFORE
THE LIGHT SNOW ENDS TONIGHT.

FAIRLY CONFIDENT THE GRADIENT FORCES HELPING STRONG WINDS TO WORK
DOWNWARD WILL BE DECOUPLING THIS AFTERNOON AND FOR NOW PLAN ON
HAVING THE NPW WIND ADVISORY CANCELED PRIOR TO ZONE ISSUANCE.
WINDS HAVE SURE BUFFETED OUR CWA LATELY.

ALL MODELS PUSH THE PRECIP EAST WITH THE CIRCULATION PULLING EAST
TONIGHT. THE NORTHEAST CWA SHOULD BE THE LAST AREA TO RECEIVE
PRECIP, AND THEY WILL ALSO REMAIN THE COLDEST. THE GFS PUMPS OUT
THE GREATEST QPF (O.19) IN MY FAR NORTH COUNTIES, WHILE THE NAM
AND ECMWF ARE MORE IN LINE WITH 0.10 OR LESS. FAVOR THE NAM AND
ECMWF FOR NOW, AS THE GFS HAS BEEN TOO WET OF LATE. ALSO, THE GFS
IS FARTHER SOUTH WITH MEASURABLE RAIN/SNOW AND ALL OTHER MODELS
PULL THE PRECIP EAST OF OUR CWA BY 24/06Z WHILE THE GFS HANGS ON
UNTIL AFTER 24/12Z. WILL KEEP LOW POPS GOING FOR ALL AREAS THROUGH
06Z TONIGHT, THEN SHIFT SLIGHT CHANCE FOR SNOW EAST AND GRADUALLY
NORTHEAST BY 12Z. NO POPS AFTER 12Z FRIDAY PLANNED. DID DELAY THE
CLEARING OUT ON FRIDAY FROM PREVIOUS FORECAST. THE COLD WRAP-AROUND
MID LAYERS AND ALOFT SHOULD KEEP PLENTY OF CLOUDINESS OVER NORTH
AND EAST SECTIONS OF MY CWA UNTIL LATE IN THE DAY FRIDAY.
HOPEFULLY, THE WESTERN COUNTIES WILL SEE A MOSTLY SUNNY FRIDAY.

TEMPERATES HAVE BEEN A BIT TRICKY LATELY, DUE IN PART TO WINDS
AND PRECIP. STAYED PRETTY CLOSE TO THE GOING FORECAST
TEMPERATURES, AS THEY ARE CLOSE TO (OR A BIT BELOW) GUIDANCE
NUMBERS AND WELL WITHIN ISC TOLERANCE LEVELS. WITH MOSTLY CLEAR
SKIES AND LIGHT SOUTHWEST WINDS AT OR UNDER 5 MPH, PUT IN PATCHY
FROST FOR MY SOUTHERN CWA AND AREAS OF FROST FOR MY NORTHERN
2/3RDS, BETWEEN 09Z AND 13Z FRI NT/SAT MORN. A FROST ADVISORY MAY
BE NEEDED LATER.

DAYS 3-7...

AN UPPER LEVEL TROUGH OF LOW PRESSURE WILL BE LIFTING NORTHEAST
ACROSS THE LOWER GREAT LAKES REGION TO BEGIN THE PERIOD SUNDAY.
MEDIUM RANGE MODELS ARE IN GENERAL AGREEMENT INDICATING THE UPPER
LEVEL TROUGH CONTINUING TO LIFT NORTHEAST AS UPPER LEVEL RIDGING
BUILDS ACROSS THE WESTERN CONUS. MEANWHILE, A SECONDARY UPPER LEVEL
S/WAVE TROUGH WILL DROP SOUTHEAST ACROSS THE NORTHERN PLAINS AND
INTO THE LOWER GREAT LAKES SUNDAY. THIS PULSE WILL HELP DROP A
SECONDARY SURGE OF COLD AIR INTO WESTERN KANSAS BY SUNDAY AFTERNOON.
LOW TEMPERATURES SUNDAY MORNING WILL ACTUALLY BE NEAR TO JUST ABOVE
NORMAL FOR THE SEASON. BOTH GFS AND ECMWF(HIRES) INDICATE
TEMPERATURES AT H85 IN THE MID TEENS(C) ACROSS MUCH OF THE CWA WITH
FAIRLY LIGHT WINDS. LOW TEMPERATURES WILL DROP INTO THE 40S(F)
ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA WITH A FEW UPPER 30S(F) POSSIBLE. THE SURGE
OF COLDER AIR WILL POUR INTO WESTERN KANSAS LATER SUNDAY DROPPING
H85 TEMPERATURES DOWN TO JUST ABOVE 0C ACROSS SOUTHWEST KANSAS.
AGAIN, HOW HIGH TEMPERATURES GET BEFORE THE COLD FRONT MOVES THROUGH
WILL BE THE KEY ISSUE HERE. REGARDLESS, TEMPERATURES SHOULD PEAK
EARLIER IN THE DAY BEFORE STEADILY FALLING DURING THE AFTERNOON
HOURS. UPPER LEVEL RIDGING TO OUR WEST WILL BEGIN MOVING INTO THE
CENTRAL PLAINS BY MID WEEK WITH LEE SIDE TROUGHING BEGINNING TO
DEVELOP TUESDAY. AFTER A COOL DAY MONDAY IN THE WAKE OF FROPA, THIS
WILL ALLOW A GRADUAL WARMING TREND ACROSS THE CWA THROUGH THE END OF
THE PERIOD.

&&

.AVIATION...

A SLOWLY WEAKENING SURFACE LOW WILL REMAIN IN PLACE ACROSS EASTERN
KANSAS THIS EVENING BEFORE BEGINNING TO MOVE EAST OUT OF KANSAS
FRIDAY MORNING. AS A RESULT, NORTHWESTERLY WINDS WILL GRADUALLY
WEAKEN THROUGH THE OVERNIGHT HOURS. A FEW SCATTERED RAIN SHOWERS
WILL LINGER THIS EVENING IN THE VICINITY OF ALL TAF SITES BEFORE
PRECIP BEGINS COMING TO AN END OVERNIGHT FROM WEST TO EAST. PERIODS
OF LIGHT SNOW MAY ALSO BE POSSIBLE IN THE VICINITY OF KHYS. LOW
LEVEL STRATUS WILL PERSIST THIS EVENING WITH SKIES BEGINNING TO
CLEAR WEST TO EAST LATE TONIGHT THROUGH LATE FRIDAY MORNING.
EXPECT SOME PERIODS OF MVFR CIGS THIS EVENING WITH GRADUAL
IMPROVEMENT BEGINNING AFTER 04Z IN THE WEST IN THE VICINITY OF KGCK.
VFR CONDITIONS WILL DEVELOP AT ALL TAF SITES BY FRIDAY AFTERNOON.

&&

.PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS...
DDC  31  54  35  72 /  20   0   0   0
GCK  30  53  34  71 /  20   0   0   0
EHA  31  59  36  74 /  10   0   0   0
LBL  32  58  36  73 /  10   0   0   0
HYS  30  49  33  70 /  40   0   0  10
P28  35  54  35  72 /  40   0   0  10

&&

.DDC WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORY...
NONE.
&&

FN12/32/32
Hazardous weather outlook, Oct 23, 5:02 PM CST, 6 hours 28 minutes before
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Event by event

1 flood. Local standard time, as filed.

Flood, Pawnee

When
October 23, 11:30 PM CST to October 25, 12:00 PM CST
Where
Pawnee County, 4.96 mi NNW of Ray to 4.85 mi NNW of Ray
Cause
Heavy Rain
Property damage
$100
Crop damage
$100,000
Reported by
Law Enforcement
Coordinates
38.240, -98.990

Slow runoff from rain that occurred earlier in the week produced creek flooding that ran over secondary roads for several days.

What these are

Flood
Flooding that develops more slowly than a flash flood: rivers leaving their banks, or water standing over land for an extended time.

After NWS Directive 10-1605, the rules offices file Storm Data by.

The same day elsewhere

More

Every storm in Kansas in 2008Every state in 2008This day in weather historyWarnings in Kansas, October 2008

Sources

NOAA National Centers for Environmental Information, Storm Events Database, compiled from the National Weather Service’s monthly Storm Data. Complete through 2026-06; NCEI adds each month about 75 days after it ends and revises past years a few times a year. Rebuilt 2026-10-01. Each event’s entry at NCEI: 138827.