Michigan, 2004Flood in Michigan, March 2 to 4, 2004
March 2 to 4, 2004 · NWS DTX · 1 event in 1 county or zone
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What forecasters said that day
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NWS Detroit, MI wrote its last area forecast discussion before the first event at Mar 2, 8:15 PM EST, 1 hour 45 minutes earlier.
Area forecast discussion, Mar 2, 8:15 PM EST, 1 hour 45 minutes before
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DETROIT/PONTIAC MI
815 PM EST TUE MAR 2 2004
.UPDATE...
SURFACE ANALYSIS SHOWS ABOUT A 10 DEGREE TEMPERATURE GRADIENT OVER
SE MICHIGAN THIS EVENING, ASSOCIATED WITH A FRONTAL BOUNDARY THAT IS
OTHERWISE WEAK IN THE PRESSURE FIELD. THIS BOUNDARY IS STARTING TO
DO MORE THAN JUST GENERATE CLOUDS AROUND THE AREA AS RADAR IMAGERY
AND SURFACE OBS SHOW SOME DRIZZLE OVER WESTERN LOWER. EXPECT THIS TO
DEVELOP INTO SE MICHIGAN AND CONTINUE INTO THE OVERNIGHT HOURS UNTIL
THE SURFACE FLOW BECOMES LIGHT AND VARIABLE. AT THAT POINT, WITH THE
LOSS OF CONVERGENCE, EXPECT FOG TO LINGER INTO THE MORNING HOURS
AFTER SUNRISE.
FORECAST UPDATE WILL ADD AREAS OF DRIZZLE AND FOG, AND WILL KEEP LOW
TEMPS ABOVE FREEZING DUE TO THICK CLOUDS AND SURFACE DEWPOINT IN THE
MID 30S TO AROUND 40.
&&
BT
.PREV DISCUSSION... ISSUED AT 354 PM TODAY
12Z RAOBS/WATER VAPOR LOOP SHOW BROAD SOUTHWESTERLY UPPER FLOW
ACROSS THE CENTRAL CONUS...BETWEEN SHORTWAVE OVER THE LOWER LAKES
AND LOW OFF THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA COAST. A FEW VORT CENTERS
EMBEDDED IN THE FLOW...SO NOT MUCH OF A WELL DEFINED UPPER RIDGE
BETWEEN THE SYSTEMS. SURFACE ANALYSIS SHOWS LOW NOW INTO
QUEBEC...WITH COLD FRONT BACK ACROSS THE STRAITS TO THE MI/WI
BORDER. OTHERWISE HIGH OVER THE CENTRAL PLAINS WITH RIDGE NOSING
INTO THE OHIO VALLEY. VIS SATELLITE SHOWS CLOUDS ACROSS OF MUCH OF
THE REGION /SOME SUN IN THE SOUTH/ BUT WITH RADAR REMAINING CLEAR OF
ECHOES.
FIRST QUESTION WITH THIS PACKAGE IS PRECIP CHANCES WEDNESDAY NIGHT.
HOWEVER MAIN STORY STILL REVOLVES AROUND THE SOUTHWESTERN LOW...AS
IT LIFTS INTO THE REGION THURSDAY NIGHT/FRIDAY. IN THE
MEANTIME...COLD FRONT DROPS ACROSS THE REGION TONIGHT ACCOMPANIED
BY WEAK UPPER ENERGY. SURFACE PRESSURE PATTERN LOSES DEFINITION
WITHOUT STRONG UPPER SUPPORT AS HIGH CONTINUES TO BUILD EASTWARD.
UPSTREAM RADARS ONLY SHOW SOME ECHOES ACROSS WESTERN LAKE
SUPERIOR/MN ARROWHEAD. NOT MUCH IS HAPPENING PRECIP-WISE CLOSER TO
THE CWA. FORECAST SOUNDINGS SHOW LOW-LEVELS CONTINUING TO REMAIN
SATURATED...WITH INVERSION HEIGHTS EVEN LIFTING A BIT DURING THE
EVENING WITH THE APPROACH OF THE FRONT. HOWEVER LOW-LEVEL LAPSE
RATES QUICKLY DROP OFF WITH SUNSET. THERE IS SOMEWHAT OF AN INCREASE
IN 850-500MB QVECTOR CONVERGENCE OVERNIGHT...HOWEVER LITTLE IN THE
WAY OF LOW-LEVEL WIND CONVERGENCE AS SURFACE TROUGH CONTINUES TO
LOSE DEFINITION. OVERALL WILL KEEP TONIGHT DRY BUT MOSTLY CLOUDY.
/FAR SOUTHEAST LOWER IS ALMOST PARTLY SUNNY...BUT BETTER MOISTURE
AND CLOUDS UPSTREAM ARE ALREADY SPREADING/FILLING SOUTHEAST./
WIDESPREAD CLOUDS OBSERVED UPSTREAM TODAY...BUT WITH A BREAK OF
CLEARING MIXING OUT ACROSS WESTERN MINNESOTA. ETA 1000-850MB RH JUST
HINTS AT A SOMEWHAT DRIER AREA ACROSS WESTERN MINNESOTA/DAKOTAS THIS
AFTERNOON...AND THIS DRIER AREA SPREADS EAST ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE
RIDGE...REACHING LAKE MICHIGAN BY 00Z THURSDAY. WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON
LOOKS QUESTIONABLE AS TO WHETHER WE WILL REMAIN CLOUDY OR MIX OUT
TO SOME SUN. HOWEVER BY THE AFTERNOON THERE IS MORE MID-LEVEL
MOISTURE SPREADING ACROSS THE REGION AHEAD OF THE NEXT SYSTEM...AND
WILL OPT TO LEAVE THE DAY BARELY MOSTLY CLOUDY.
NORTHERN STREAM WAVE DROPS OUT OF CANADA...WITH A WEAK SURFACE WAVE
TRACKING ACROSS THE NORTHERN PLAINS AND INTO NORTHERN ONTARIO. THERE
CONTINUES TO BE SOME DIFFERENCES WITH PLACEMENT AND TIMING...AS WELL
AS PRECIPITATION AMOUNT. ETA OFFERS A MUCH DRIER SOLUTION THAN GFS
OR NGM /MOS AT DTW WEDNESDAY NIGHT...ETA 26 AND NGM 98/. ETA
DEVELOPS MORE/HEAVIER PRECIP ALONG THE BAROCLINIC ZONE SOUTH OF THE
REGION...WHEREAS THE NGM TRIES TO MERGE THIS OVER THE CWA WITH THE
NORTHERN WAVE. GFS IS MORE OF A SPLIT SOLUTION...SLOWER TO DEVELOP
PRECIP SOUTH OF THE STATE AND MORE WIDESPREAD WITH PRECIP TO THE
NORTH. FOR NOW WILL STICK WITH CHANCE POPS THINKING MOISTURE WILL BE
MORE LIMITED ALONG THE NORTHERN COLD FRONT. PRECIP TYPE MAY ALSO BE
A CONCERN...AT LEAST ACROSS THE NORTHERN CWA WHERE COLDER AIR WILL
HOLD ON LONGER. WILL KEEP PRECIP MIXED ACROSS THE FAR NORTH...AND
JUST RAIN ELSEWHERE.
HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS IN ACROSS THE NORTHERN GREAT LAKES...WITH A
DECENT NORTHEASTERLY WIND DEVELOPING OFF LAKE HURON. AT THE SAME
TIME ENERGY FROM THE SOUTHWESTERLY LOW EJECTS INTO THE SOUTHERN
PLAINS....WITH SURFACE CYCLOGENESIS. ALSO GOOD FRONTOGENESIS ACROSS
THE MID MISSISSIPPI/OHIO VALLEYS AS WARM FRONT STRENGTHENS AHEAD OF
THE SURFACE WAVE. THIS SYSTEM DEEPENS AND MOVES NORTHEAST INTO THE
REGION...WITH FOR THE MOST PART SIMILAR TRACKS BETWEEN THE ETA/GFS.
SOME DIFFERENCES IN THE SMALL SCALE THOUGH...WITH GFS A BIT
FASTER/FARTHER NORTH THAN THE ETA. BOTH SHOW A DECENT NEGATIVE TILT
TO THE SHORTWAVE. FGEN/ISENTROPIC LIFT CONTINUES TO INCREASE
OVERNIGHT AS THE FRONT LIFTS INTO THE STATE. VERY STRONG MOISTURE
TRANSPORT/MOISTURE CONVERGENCE...WITH PRECIPITABLE WATERS CLIMBING
OVER 1 INCH /CLIMO IS 0.38 AT DTX/. CURRENT GRIDS HAVE DEFINITE RAIN
DEVELOPING FROM SOUTH TO NORTH THURSDAY NIGHT...WHICH LOOKS GOOD FOR
THIS OVERRUNNING SCENARIO. IN ADDITION WITH THE APPROACH OF THE
STRONG LOW-LEVEL JET...ELEVATED INSTABILITY INCREASES WITH DECENT
MID LEVEL LAPSE RATES AND SHOWALTER INDICES FALLING NEAR 0C ACROSS
THE SOUTHERN CWA BY 12Z FRIDAY /DURING THE MORNING FARTHER NORTH/.
AS MENTIONED ABOVE...850MB JET OF +70KTS PER THE ETA/+60KTS PER THE
GFS NOSES INTO THE STATE FRIDAY MORNING. FORECAST
SOUNDINGS/HODOGRAPHS SHOW ONLY A SLIGHT DIRECTIONAL TURNING IN THE
LOW LEVELS /FOLLOWING THE SURFACE WARM FRONT/ WITH NEARLY
UNIDIRECTIONAL FLOW OFF THE SURFACE. ALSO AS MENTIONED ABOVE...
ETA/GFS BOTH INDICATE SOME WEAK INSTABILITY ACCOMPANYING THE SYSTEM
/ETA A BIT MORE UNSTABLE THAN GFS/. FOLLOWING PASSAGE OF THE WARM
FRONT FRIDAY MORNING...WE COULD SEE A DRY SLOT DURING THE DAY ON
FRIDAY. BOTH ETA/GFS DO HOLD ON TO A LOT OF LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE
THOUGH...WHICH MAY KEEP US MOSTLY CLOUDY STILL. HOWEVER IF WE DO SEE
SOME SUN TEMPERATURES COULD EASILY JUMP ANOTHER 10 DEGREES WITH
PLENTY OF WIND AVAILABLE TO MIX DOWN. AND WITH THE NEGATIVELY TILTED
UPPER TROUGH AND COLD FRONT COMING THROUGH FRIDAY AFTERNOON...THERE
IS THE POTENTIAL FOR SEVERE WEATHER WITH MINIMAL INSTABILITY DUE TO
THE STRONG DYNAMICS ASSOCIATED WITH THE SYSTEM. WILL INCREASE
WORDING IN THE HWO TO MENTION POTENTIAL FOR SEVERE ACROSS THE
SOUTHERN HALF OF THE CWA FOR NOW. THIS COULD BE ADJUSTED NORTH OF
SOUTH AS FUTURE RUNS REFINE THE TRACK OF THE SURFACE LOW.
FOR THE EXTENDED...STILL A RATHER UNSETTLED PERIOD AS WE TRY TO
TRANSITION TO MORE OF AN AMPLIFIED NORTHWESTERLY FLOW. A NUMBER OF
SHORTWAVES/SURFACE SYSTEMS ARE POISED TO DROP THROUGH SOME PORTION
OF THE REGION...AND AS CAN BE EXPECTED WITH SMALLER SCALE FEATURES
IN A PATTERN TRANSITION THERE IS A WIDE SPREAD BETWEEN MODEL AND
ENSEMBLE SOLUTIONS. FOR NOW WILL KEEP SATURDAY DRY FOLLOWING THIS
SYSTEM...THEN ADD A CHANCE FOR SATURDAY NIGHT/SUNDAY. WE SHOULD
STILL BE COLD ENOUGH TO KEEP PRECIP AS ALL SNOW. THERE SHOULD BE A
BRIEF PRECIP-FREE PERIOD AHEAD OF THE NEXT SYSTEM...AND CURRENT
INDICATIONS FAVOR SUNDAY NIGHT BEING DRY. NEXT DEEPER SYSTEM THEN
MOVES THROUGH MONDAY/TUESDAY. IN ADDITION TO TIMING AND
PLACEMENT...ALSO DIFFERENCES AS FAR AS THERMAL FIELDS. GFS/ECMWF ARE
SIMILAR BUT THE ETA-XX IS MUCH COLDER. WILL CONTINUE TO SHY AWAY
FROM THE ETA-XX SOLUTION...AS IT DID NOT SEEM TO HAVE A GOOD HANDLE
ON THE SPEED/TRACK OF THE FRIDAY SYSTEM /AN OUTLIER BEING TOO FAST
AND EAST COMPARED TO OTHER 00Z-12Z MODELS/...A RESULT THAT AFFECTS
TIMING FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE FORECAST PERIOD.
&&
.DTX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...NONE.
&&
BRAVENDER
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Hazardous weather outlook, Mar 2, 4:30 PM EST, 5 hours 30 minutes before
HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK FOR SOUTHEAST MICHIGAN
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DETROIT/PONTIAC MI
430 PM EST TUE MAR 2 2004
MIZ047>049-053>055-060>063-031200-
BAY-GENESEE-HURON-LAPEER-MIDLAND-SAGINAW-SANILAC-SHIAWASSEE-
ST. CLAIR-TUSCOLA-
430 PM EST TUE MAR 2 2004
THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR SOUTHEAST LOWER MICHIGAN ALONG
AND NORTH OF INTERSTATE 69.
.DAY ONE...TONIGHT
NO HAZARDOUS WEATHER IS EXPECTED AT THIS TIME.
.DAY TWO THROUGH SEVEN...WEDNESDAY THROUGH MONDAY
HEAVY RAIN IS POSSIBLE LATE THURSDAY NIGHT AND FRIDAY. RAINFALL
TOTALS AROUND ONE INCH MAY OCCUR. SCATTERED THUNDERSTORMS ARE ALSO
POSSIBLE ON FRIDAY. LOW PRESSURE WILL TRACK OUT OF THE SOUTHERN
PLAINS THURSDAY AND INTO MICHIGAN ON FRIDAY. THE HEAVY RAIN HAS THE
POTENTIAL TO PRODUCE SOME MINOR FLOODING. PEOPLE WITH INTERESTS IN
FLOOD PRONE LOCATIONS SHOULD KEEP UP TO DATE WITH THE LATEST
FORECASTS.
GALE FORCE WINDS ARE EXPECTED ACROSS SOUTHERN LAKE HURON ON FRIDAY
AHEAD OF THE SURFACE LOW. SEE THE LATEST LAKE HURON FORECAST FOR
DETAILS.
.SPOTTER INFORMATION STATEMENT...
SPOTTER ACTIVATION IS NOT ANTICIPATED.
MIZ068>070-075-076-082-083-031200-
LENAWEE-LIVINGSTON-MACOMB-MONROE-OAKLAND-WASHTENAW-WAYNE-
430 PM EST TUE MAR 2 2004
THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR SOUTHEAST LOWER MICHIGAN SOUTH
OF INTERSTATE 69.
.DAY ONE...TONIGHT
NO HAZARDOUS WEATHER IS EXPECTED AT THIS TIME.
.DAY TWO THROUGH SEVEN...WEDNESDAY THROUGH MONDAY
SCATTERED THUNDERSTORMS ARE EXPECTED LATE THURSDAY NIGHT AND FRIDAY.
THERE IS A SLIGHT CHANCE OF SEVERE WEATHER ON FRIDAY. HEAVY RAIN IS
ALSO POSSIBLE THURSDAY NIGHT AND FRIDAY. RAINFALL TOTALS OF ONE TO
TWO INCHES MAY OCCUR. LOW PRESSURE WILL TRACK OUT OF THE SOUTHERN
PLAINS THURSDAY AND INTO MICHIGAN ON FRIDAY. THE HEAVY RAIN HAS THE
POTENTIAL TO PRODUCE SOME MINOR FLOODING. PEOPLE WITH INTERESTS IN
FLOOD PRONE LOCATIONS SHOULD KEEP UP TO DATE WITH THE LATEST
FORECASTS.
GALE FORCE WINDS ARE EXPECTED ON LAKE ST CLAIR FRIDAY AHEAD OF THE
SURFACE LOW. SEE THE LATEST LAKE ST CLAIR FORECAST FOR DETAILS.
.SPOTTER INFORMATION STATEMENT...
SPOTTER ACTIVATION IS NOT ANTICIPATED.
BRAVENDER
Flood, Saginaw
- When
- March 2, 10:00 PM EST to March 4, 7:00 AM EST
- Where
- Saginaw forecast zone
- Reported by
- AWOS,ASOS,MESONET,ETC
- Coordinates
- 43.335, -84.053 (the zone’s center; the record gives no point)
The Shiawassee River near Fergus went above its flood stage of 10 feet at 10 pm EST on the 2nd. The river crested at 10.8 feet at 9 am EST on the 3rd, then fell below flood stage at 7 am EST on the 4th.
- Flood
- Flooding that develops more slowly than a flash flood: rivers leaving their banks, or water standing over land for an extended time.
After NWS Directive 10-1605, the rules offices file Storm Data by.
- Flash Flooding and Avalanche in California, March 2 to 3, 2004$290,000 · 7 events
- High Surf in Hawaii, March 2 to 3, 20046 events
- Winter Weather in Colorado, March 2 to 3, 20042 events
- Winter Weather in Colorado, March 2 to 3, 20042 events
- Heavy Rain in Hawaii, March 2, 20041 event
- Flash Flood in California, March 2, 2004$10,000 · 1 event
- Heavy Rain in Hawaii, March 2, 20041 event
- Funnel Cloud in California, March 2, 20041 event
- Heavy Rain in Hawaii, March 2, 20041 event
NOAA National Centers for Environmental Information, Storm Events Database, compiled from the National Weather Service’s monthly Storm Data. Complete through 2026-06; NCEI adds each month about 75 days after it ends and revises past years a few times a year. Rebuilt 2026-09-24. Each event’s entry at NCEI: 5388808.