Flash Flood, Montgomery
- When
- August 5, 1:29 PM EST to 3:00 PM EST
- Where
- Montgomery County, South Amsterdam
- Property damage
- $50,000
- Reported by
- LAW ENFORCEMENT
- Coordinates
- 42.902, -74.440 (the zone’s center; the record gives no point)
For the third day in a row, scattered slow moving thunderstorms developed over the eastern Mohawk Valley of New York during the afternoon of August 5. Torrential rainfall from these storms produced another round of flash flooding in some of the same places that had dealt with it the last two days, especially in Montgomery County.
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The episode as NWS ALY wrote it up.
For the third day in a row, scattered slow moving thunderstorms developed over the eastern Mohawk Valley of New York during the afternoon of August 5. Torrential rainfall from these storms produced another round of flash flooding in some of the same places that had dealt with it the last two days, especially in Montgomery County. Rain from the first round of thunderstorms caused flooding on the eastbound lanes of the New York State Thruway, with water about a foot deep in the town of Florida. Rain continued to fall and was estimated to accumulate up to 4 inches, causing small creeks to overspill their banks. Water forced residents to evacuate along Happy Hollow Road in the town of Canajoharie. The flooding damaged the foundation of a house, collapsing the wall of a basement. More flooding occurred in the town of Neilston where Dygert Street was heavily damaged. Up to twenty cellars took on water in Fort Plain and had to be pumped out by firemen. The flooding damaged a feeder pipe that serves the village of Fort Plain's water system. A boil advisery was in affect until the following Friday in that town. In the town of Palatine Bridge, raging waters from an unnamed small creek washed away a driveway. Lightning from the same storm struck a house on Market Street in Amsterdam, causing a structural fire to a large house. The house was damaged but not destroyed. Another storm produced heavy rains in Starkville, Herkimer County which caused the Otsquago Creek to overflow onto Frog City Road, undermining a portion of the road. During the flood, stacks of concrete forms for the construction of a house at the site, were washed downstream. In Mariaville, Schenectady County, heavy rains washed out a section of Bernie-Smith Road off Route 159.
The local office's own words before the first event, as it sent them, from the Iowa Environmental Mesonet's archive of National Weather Service text.
NWS Albany, NY wrote its last area forecast discussion before the first event at Aug 5, 10:48 AM EST, 2 hours 41 minutes earlier.
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ALBANY NY 1148 AM EDT TUE AUG 5 2003 .DISC...WILL UPDATE ZONES TO REFLECT CURRENT THINKING OF ISSUING A FLASH FLOOD WATCH FOR PORTIONS OF THE CWA THAT HAVE RECD SEVERAL INCHES OF RAIN THIS PAST WEEK. WL UPDATE ZNS TO ACCOUNT FOR THIS WATCH WHICH WILL RUN THROUGH 1130 PM. SAME AIRMASS OVER THE CWA SO EXPECT SAME WX FOR TODAY AS THE PAST FEW DAYS WITH SHWRS/TSTMS LKLY ACRS THE CWA WITH TORRENTIAL DOWNPOURS POSSIBLE. CANNOT RULE OUT SOME PLACES RECEIVING 2 TO 4 INCHES OF RAIN OR MORE IF CELLS DEVLOP AND TRAIN OVER A PARTICULAR AREA SO WITH THAT IN MIND HAVE OPTED FOR THE FFA FOR THESE COUNTIES. NO OTHER CHNAGE PLANNED ATTM FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE PDS. ..................................................................... ...FROM PREVIOUS .DISCUSSION... THE LARGE UPPER-LEVEL GYRE TO OUR WEST HAS PROGRESSED SLOWLY TO THE EAST SINCE FORMING OVER THE NORTHEASTERN PLAINS OF THE UNITED STATES ON JULY 30. MONDAY EVENING IT WAS NEARLY VERTICAL THROUGH A DEEP LAYER OF THE ATMOSPHERE. THE WATER VAPOR IMAGERY SUGGESTED A SPLIT IN VORTICITY MAXIMUMS. ONE WAS NEAR JAMES BAY, ANOTHER WAS NEAR THE THE SOUTH SHORE OF LAKE HURON. THE HIGH-LEVEL TROUGH HAS BEEN SHARPENING, AND THAT IS FORECAST TO CONTINUE TODAY AS THE TROUGH TRENDS TOWARD A SLIGHT NEGATIVE TILT. THE TOTAL PRECIPITABLE WATER IS NOT FORECAST TO BE QUITE AS HIGH FOR TODAY AS IT WAS YESTERDAY WHEN VALUES IN EXCESS OF 2 INCHES WERE FORECAST IN THE EASTERN ZONES. TODAY, THE TOTAL PRECIPITABLE WATER ACROSS THE REGION AVERAGES JUST SHY OF AN INCH AND THREE QUARTERS. PERHAPS THIS IS THE RESULT OF A LITTLE DRIER AIR HAVING COME IN AT THE HIGH ALTITUDES. THERES BEEN NO APPARENT CHANGES IN THE LOW LAYERS OF THE ATMOSPHERE. A STRONG LOW-LEVEL JET IS FORECAST OFF THE ATLANTIC COAST TODAY, WITH WINDS IN EXCESS OF 50 KNOTS IN THE CORE OF THIS FEATURE. THE STRONGEST LOW-LEVEL SHEAR IS OFF THE ATLANTIC COAST AS WELL. MUCH LIGHTER LOW-LEVEL WIND IS FORECAST ACROSS EASTERN NEW YORK AND WESTERN NEW ENGLAND. A HIGH-LEVEL WIND MAXIMUM, APPROACHING 90 KNOTS, IS FORECAST TO DRIFT EASTWARD AND BE OVER THE WESTERN ZONES THIS EVENING. SOME DYNAMICS ARE SUGGESTED LATE TODAY IN THE VICINITY OF THE WESTERN ZONES IN ASSOCIATION WITH THIS FEATURE. THE LOW-LEVEL WIND MAXIMUM OFF THE ATLANTIC COAST FAVORS THE BEST LOW-LEVEL CONVERGENCE ALONG, OR OFF THE ATLANTIC COAST. THESE SIGNATURES SEEM TO FAVOR THE LOWEST PROBABILITY OF PRECIPITATION IN THE EASTERN OR CENTRAL PORTION OF THE COUNTY WARNING AREA TODAY. HOWEVER, THERE ARE DIFFERENCES IN MODEL FORECASTS OF MEASURABLE PRECIPITATION, AND THESE ARE REFLECTED IN DIFFERENCES IN THE MODEL PROBABILITIES TOO. THE AVIATION HAS THE LOWEST PROBABILITIES IN THE WEST. BUT ALL THE MODELS SHOW AT LEAST LIKELY VALUES TODAY, AND ALL ARE FORECASTING AT LEAST LIGHT MEASURABLE PRECIPITATION. THE CANADIAN REGIONAL MODEL HAS THE LEAST WET SOLUTION FOR TODAY. THE ZONE FORECAST THAT WILL BE RELEASED LATER THIS MORNING WILL BE GOING WITH LIKELY PROBABILITIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY WARNING AREA (60 OR 70 PERCENT). LITTLE CHANGE IN MAXIMUM TEMPERATURE FROM THAT NOTED OVER THE PAST SEVERAL DAYS HAS BEEN FORECAST BY THE NEW GUIDANCE. THE MODELS SUGGEST THAT A SHORT WAVE WILL EVOLVE OUT OF THE SHARP UPPER-LEVEL TROUGH TO THE WEST OF THE COUNTY WARNING AREA LATER TODAY. THIS IS FORECAST TO MOVE EAST AND SHOULD BEGIN TO ENHANCE THE PRECIPITATION LATE TONIGHT OR EARLY WEDNESDAY IN EASTERN NEW YORK AND WESTERN NEW ENGLAND. THERE ARE DIFFERENCES IN TIMING THIS FEATURE. THE CANADIAN REGIONAL MODEL IS SLIGHTLY SLOWER THAN THE ETA MODEL. THE AVIATION AND ETA INDICATED THAT THE HIGH-LEVEL WIND MAXIMUM WOULD ALIGN FAVORABLY FOR SIGNIFICANT UPPER LEVEL DIVERGENCE AS THE TROUGH MOVED TOWARD THE COUNTY WARNING AREA. THE NESTED GRID MODEL WAS NOT AS FAVORABLE AS IT FORECAST A WEAKER WIND MAXIMUM FURTHER EAST THAN THE ETA OR AVIATION. MODEL CONSENSUS ON THE IDEA THAT SOME SORT OF WAVE WOULD ENHANCE PRECIPITATION, SUGGESTS THAT IT WOULD BE PRUDENT TO KEEP THE PROBABILITY OF PRECIPITATION AT LEAST AT THE LIKELY LEVEL IN MUCH, IF NOT ALL OF THE COUNTY WARNING AREA FOR TONIGHT AND WEDNESDAY. LITTLE CHANGE IN MINIMUM OR MAXIMUM TEMPERATURES ARE INDICATED BY THE LATEST GUIDANCE, AND THIS IS REASONABLE AS THE SAME AIR MASS WILL CONTINUE TO COVER THE REGION. THE SHORT-WAVE SHOULD BE EAST OF THE AREA WEDNESDAY NIGHT, AND THE UPPER-LEVEL WIND MAXIMUM WILL BE FAR ENOUGH EAST, SO THAT SOME SINKING CAN OCCUR OVER THE COUNTY WARNING AREA. THEREFORE IT IS BELIEVED THAT THERE MAY BE A BREAK IN THE PRECIPITATION WEDNESDAY NIGHT. NEVERTHELESS, THE MAIN UPPER-LEVEL TROUGH AXIS WILL CONTINUE TO LIE TO THE WEST OF THE EASTERN NEW YORK, WHICH MAKES IT LESS CERTAIN THAT IT WILL BE ENTIRELY DRY WEDNESDAY NIGHT. THE MODEL GUIDANCE PROBABILITIES ALL SUGGEST A CHANCE OF RAIN FOR WEDNESDAY NIGHT. THE LOWER AVIATION VALUES ARE PREFERRED. FOR SEVERAL RUNS, THE AVIATION AND CANADIAN GLOBAL MODELS HAVE BEEN LATCHING ONTO A WEAK WAVE IN THE SOUTHEASTERN UNITED STATES AND MOVING IT NORTHEAST THROUGH THE ATLANTIC COASTAL REGION. THIS COULD HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE COUNTY WARNING AREA, ESPECIALLY THE EASTERN PORTION. THE IDEA OF THE WAVE CONTINUES ON THE LATEST RUN OF THE AVIATION AND CANADIAN GLOBAL MODELS, HOWEVER, THE CANADIAN GLOBAL PLACES LESS EMPHASIS ON IT THAN SOME OF THE PREVIOUS MODEL RUNS. THE ETA FAVORS AN EVEN DRIER SOLUTION FOR THURSDAY. MONDAYS ZONE FORECAST FOR THURSDAY HAD ONLY A SLIGHT CHANCE OF PRECIPITATION. HOWEVER, IN VIEW OF THE HISTORY OF THE MODEL RUNS, AND THE LOCATION OF THE UPPER-LEVEL TROUGH TO THE WEST, A 30 OR 40 PERCENT CHANCE OF RAIN AS IS FORECAST BY THE LATEST AVIATION GUIDANCE DOES NOT SEEM UNREASONABLE. THE SLIGHT CHANCE PROBABILITIES FOR THURSDAY WILL BE BUMPED UP SLIGHTLY ON THE NEXT FORECAST. THE AVIATION AND CANADIAN GLOBAL MODELS CONTINUE TO FORECAST MEASURABLE PRECIPITATION LATE IN THE WEEK. MONDAYS ZONE FORECAST HAD A CHANCE OF PRECIPITATION. NO CHANGES WILL BE MADE TO THE EXTENDED PART OF THE FORECAST. .HYDROLOGICAL DISCUSSION... WITH THE TROPICAL AIR MASS REMAINING OVER THE REGION FOR SEVERAL MORE DAYS, THERES THE THREAT OF GULLY-WASHERS, ESPECIALLY DURING THE AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVENING HOURS. HOWEVER, IT IS ALL BUT IMPOSSIBLE TO PINPOINT THE LOCATION OF THESE, AND THE CHANCE OF FLOODING AT ANY PARTICULAR LOCATION IS BELOW 30 PERCENT, SO NO FLOOD WATCHES WILL BE ISSUED. .ALY...NONE.
CTZ001-013-MAZ001-025-NYZ032-033-038>043-047>054-058>061-063>066- 082>084-VTZ013>015-060330- HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK...CORRECTION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ALBANY NY 1142 AM EDT TUE AUG 5 2003 THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR EASTERN NEW YORK AND ADJACENT WESTERN NEW ENGLAND. .DAY ONE...TODAY AND THIS EVENING...A FLASH FLOOD WATCH HAS BEEN ISSUED FOR THE FOLLOWING COUNTIES...SCHOHARIE...MONTGOMERY... GREENE...ULSTER...SCHENECTADY...SOUTHERN HERKIMER...SARATOGA... SOUTHEAST WARREN...WASHINGTON...FULTON...BENNINGTON AND WINDHAM. TORRENTIAL DOWNPOURS MAY BE POSSIBLE IN THESE AREAS THAT HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED SEVERAL INCHES OF RAIN THE PAST FEW DAYS. .DAYS TWO THOUGH SEVEN... NO HAZARDOUS WEATHER IS EXPECTED AT THIS TIME. .SPOTTER INFORMATION STATEMENT... SPOTTER ACTIVATION MAY BE REQUIRED. CORRECTED FOR EXPIRATION TIME
The Albany radar (KENX), 47 km away, was scanning. The volume nearest the first event began at 18:30 UTC.
7 flash flood, 1 lightning. Local standard time, as filed.
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