Florida, 2008

Rip Currents in Florida, August 3 to 4, 2008

August 3 to 4, 2008 · NWS TAE · 3 events in 1 county or zone

Three men drowned from rip currents at Panama City Beach on August 3 and 4.

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The toll

Deaths
3
Injuries
2
Property damage
None recorded
Crop damage
None recorded
Events
3

Deaths and injuries are direct and indirect together, as the offices filed them. Damage is property and crops in the dollars of the year, not adjusted for inflation, and only where an office estimated it.

What happened

The episode as NWS TAE wrote it up.

Three men drowned from rip currents at Panama City Beach on August 3 and 4.

What forecasters said that day

The local office's own words before the first event, as it sent them, from the Iowa Environmental Mesonet's archive of National Weather Service text.

NWS Tallahassee, FL wrote its last area forecast discussion before the first event at Aug 3, 2:59 AM EST, 5 hours 31 minutes earlier.

Area forecast discussion, Aug 3, 2:59 AM EST, 5 hours 31 minutes before
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED FOR LONG TERM/AVN SECTIONS.
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TALLAHASSEE FL
355 AM SUN AUG 3 2008

.SYNOPSIS...
DURING THE LATE EVENING...STRONG CONVECTIVE OUTFLOW BOUNDARY
PROPAGATED SSW FROM CNTRL GA TO NRN MOST CWA GA COUNTIES BEFORE
DYING OFF AFTER MIDNIGHT. WIND GUSTS IN EXCESS OF 40 MPH WERE LIKELY
GENERATED WITH THIS BOUNDARY IN LEE...TURNER AND WORTH COUNTIES. AT
3 AM EDT...PARTLY CLOUDY SKIES PREVAILED ACROSS LOCAL AREA. TEMPS
RANGED FROM LOW 70S NORTH TO NEAR 80 PANHANDLE COAST. 24 HR TEMP/DEW
POINT COMPARISON INDICATES LITTLE CHANGE IN TEMPERATURE AND ONLY
SLIGHT DRYING...MAINLY EAST OF APALACH RIVER COMPARED TO SAME TIME
YESTERDAY. WINDS WERE GENERALLY CALM TO LIGHT SWLY.

AT UPPER LEVELS...
LARGE SCALE CONUS PATTERN REMAINS AMPLIFIED...ESPECIALLY FOR EARLY
AUGUST. IT IS HIGHLIGHTED BY TROUGH ACROSS WEST COAST...DOMINANT
RIDGE ACROSS CENTRAL PORTIONS AND TROUGH OVER ERN CONUS. IN THE SRN
STREAM...LARGE HIGH WITH HEAT RIDGE FROM CALIF EWD TO ALA AND
ANOTHER HIGH IN WRN ATLC OFF FL WITH ERN TROUGH AXIS EXTENDING SWWD
BETWEEN BOTH HIGHS.

DURING THE DAY TODAY...BOTH THE GFS AND NAM MODELS SUGGEST THAT PAC
TROUGH WILL LIFT NEWD ACROSS WRN US/CANADIAN BORDER. EJECTING
SHORTWAVE TROUGH WILL MOVE EWD INTO UPR GREAT LAKES FLATTENING RIDGE
OVER THE NRN PLAINS/UPPER MS VALLEY WHILE ERN TROUGH WILL BEGIN TO
LIFT NEWD INTO ADJACENT ATLC. BY MONDAY..PAC H5 TROUGH BEGINS TO
MOVE SEWD TOWARD NRN PLAINS FURTHER SUPPRESSING RIDGE WHILE ERN
TROUGH MOVES FURTHER OFFSHORE.

AT LOWER LEVELS...
MAIN CONUS FEATURE IS LOW SD/NEB BORDER WITH COLD FRONT NEWD ACROSS
UPR GREAT LAKES AND QSTNRY FRONT SSE TO ARK AND THEN EWD ACROSS SRN
TENN VALLEY AND ENE TO LOW IN NJ. SOUTH OF FRONT...A HOT AND MOIST
AIR MASS PERSISTS. A SURFACE TROUGH EXTENDS FROM NJ LOW SSW TO
ACROSS S/CNTRL GA WITH ANOTHER TROF S TO GULF LOW SW OF PENSACOLA.
SO...LOCAL AREA IN BETWEEN THIS TROUGH AND RIDGE AXIS ACROSS THE SRN
FL PENINSULA. AS TROUGH WEAKENS AND MOVES WWD WITH GULF LOW...RIDGE
WILL LIFT NORTH BECOMING POSITIONED ACROSS CNTRL PENINSULA BY MONDAY
AND TO NRN PENINSULA BY MIDWEEK. PER MSAS...MOISTURE AXIS HAS
SHIFTED WWD WITH ERN EXTENT AROUND DESTIN. THIS REFLECTED IN 00Z
REGIONAL SOUNDINGS WHICH SHOW TAE WITH A DECREASE OF 3/4 INCH PWAT
(DOWN TO 1.55 IN LAST 24 HRS).

REGARDING GULF LOW...MASS OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS OVER THE
NORTHERN GULF OF MEXICO CONTINUES NEAR THE BASE OF ABOVE ERN TROUGH
BETWEEN THE UPPER HIGHS. SATELLITE AND BUOY OBS SHOW A DEFINITE SPIN
IN RADAR IMAGERY JUST SW OF BUOY 42039 AND SOME CONVECTION
DEVELOPING NEAR THE CENTER. NAM12 STILL IS HAVING SOME TROUBLES
RESOLVING SYSTEM WHILE THE GFS CONTINUES TO APPEAR TOO STRONG WITH
THE SURFACE AND UPPER LEVEL FEATURES (CONVECTIVE FEEDBACK). PER
NHC...PRESSURES ARE ALSO FALLING AND ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS APPEAR
TO BE FAVORABLE FOR SLOW DEVELOPMENT AND  THIS SYSTEM COULD BECOME A
TROPICAL DEPRESSION DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.

EITHER WAY..FOR LOCAL AREA...THE GOOD NEWS THAT THE UPPER RIDGE WILL
KEEP SYSTEM OVER THE GULF. CIRCULATION IS MOVING TOWARD THE SW AND
MOST GUIDANCE SHOWS IT CONTINUING IN THAT DIRECTION AND THEN
TRACKING WWD WITH LA AND/OR TX WITH THE BEST BET TO RECEIVE IMPACT.
THIS WOULD ALLOW LOCAL WINDS TO BECOME MORE SLY (SE TODAY...SLY ON
MONDAY AND SSW ON TUESDAY KEEPING MOST OF DEEP LAYER MOISTURE
WEST OF CWA AND OVER GULF WATERS. HOWEVER ONSHORE LOW LEVEL FLOW
WILL MAINTAIN LOCAL PWATS 1.7-1.8 INCHES TRAPPED UNDER HEAR RIDGE TO
YIELD HIGH HEAT INDICES. THIS REFLECTED IN MODEL SOUNDINGS.

.SHORT TERM...(TODAY THROUGH TUESDAY)...
TODAY...SREF CIGS/VSBY PLOTS HAS INITIALIZED WELL OF LATE AND
CONTINUE TO SHOW MVFR CIGS AND VSBYS ACROSS MNLY NRN ZONES FIRST FEW
HOURS OF DAY SO WILL WILL INCLUDE IN FORECAST. OTHERWISE...
TRANSITION DAY AS GULF LOW MOVES W AND ERN TROUGH LIFTS NEWD. WWD
JAUNT OF GULF LOW WILL KEEP DEEPEST MOISTURE AND BEST CONVERGENCE W
OF CWA. LOCAL AREA LOCATED IN BETWEEN EXITING TROUGH TO THE
NORTHEAST AND A TROUGH ASSOCD WITH GULF LOW TO THE SOUTHWEST AND
RIDGES TO THE NORTHWEST AND SOUTHEAST. SO MOIST SE LOW LEVEL
STEERING FLOW IS OFFSET BY DRIER MID-UPPER LEVEL AIR MOVING IN SO
POPS EXPECTED TO BE BELOW SEA BREEZE CLIMO. BEST RAIN CHANCES WILL
REMAIN NEAR THE PANHANDLE COAST CLOSEST TO THE GULF DISTURBANCE.
SLIGHT CHANCE POPS EXPECTED TO THE NORTH. MAX INLAND TEMPS EXPECTED
AROUND 90 SW COAST TO MID 90S NRN GA COUNTIES.

TONIGHT...INLAND LOWS IN THE LOWER 70S WITH PATCHY FOG LIKELY
ESPECIALLY NRN COUNTIES.

MONDAY...SOUTH TO SOUTHEAST STEERING FLOW PERSISTS BUT TUTT LOW OVER
WRN CARIB BEGINS TO PULL DEEPER MOISTURE NWWD IMPACTING MAINLY SE
THIRD OF CWA. THIS WILL BE SOMEWHAT MITIGATED BY RIDGE OF HIGH
PRESSURE BRIDGES ACROSS SE REGION. ONCE AGAIN WILL GO A BIT BELOW
POPS EXPECTED FROM SEABREEZE CLIMO. MAX TEMPS WILL INCH UP A DEGREE
OR TWO AND WITH A HUMID AIR MASS TRAPPED UNDER THE RIDGE WILL SEND
HEAT INDICES TO BETWEEN 105 AND 110...CLOSE TO NEEDING A HEAT
ADVISORY.

TUESDAY...S/SW STEERING FLOW AS GULF LOW/TROUGH TO MOVE WWD TO
ALONG THE TEXAS COAST WITH HIGH PRESSURE ALOFT OCCURRING ACROSS THE
WESTERN U.S. AND EXTENDING EASTWARD ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST U.S EXCEPT
FOR ERN MOST CWA. HERE...AXIS FROM WRN ATLC TROUGH EXTENDS SWWD TO
ACROSS FL WHILE SURFACE RIDGE LIFTING NE TO ACROSS FL-GA LINE. SOUTH
OF AXIS...DEEP TROPICAL MOISTURE IS ADVECTED FURTHER NWWD WITH SHARP
50-20 PCT SE-NW POP GRADIENT. RIDGING ALOFT OVER MOST OF CWA WILL
INCREASE OUR AFTERNOON HIGH TEMPERATURES BACK INTO THE LOW-MID 90S
NEAR MORE CLOUDY COAST..AND TO THE MID-UPPER 90S ACROSS NRN MOST
COUNTIES WITH HEAT INDICES APPROACHING 110 DEGREES.

&&

.LONG TERM (WEDNESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY)...LITTLE CHANGE IN THE LARGE
SCALE PATTERN THROUGH THE FORECAST PERIOD...WITH MEAN TROFS JUST OFF
THE WEST COAST...AND OVER THE EASTERN U.S. THE TROF OVER THE EAST
WILL START OUT RELATIVELY FLAT WITH UPPER LEVEL RIDGING EXTENDING
ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST AND HIGH PRESSURE AT THE SURFACE...WHICH WILL
SUPPRESS SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY WITH POPS BELOW NORMAL AND
HIGH TEMPERATURES CLIMBING WELL INTO THE MID 90S. BY THE END OF THE
WEEK...ANOTHER SHORT WAVE DROPS INTO THE MEAN TROF...WEAKENING THE
UPPER LEVEL RIDGE AND PUSHING SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE SOUTHWARD. THIS
WILL ALLOW A RETURN OF MOISTURE...ALONG WITH AN INCREASE IN CLOUDS
AND SHOWERS...WITH POPS AND HIGH TEMPERATURES RETURNING TO NEAR
NORMAL BY THE WEEKEND.

&&

.MARINE...ABOVE GULF LOW IS BEING MONITORED BY NHC FOR POSSIBLE
TROPICAL DEVELOPMENT,WHICH WILL PLAY A LARGE PART IN DETERMINING THE
WIND FORECAST OVER THE COASTAL WATERS.  AS NOTED ABOVE...GFS LOOKS
OVERDONE AND FORECAST ADJUSTED ACCORDINGLY. BASED ON OBSERVATIONS AT
BUOY 42039 S OF PFN, SCEC HEADLINE REMAINS FOR OUR SWRN MARINE LEG
AND GENERALLY BRING WINDS UP ABOUT 5 KT ELSEWHERE. WINDS AT THE BUOY
HAVE BEEN CONSISTENTLY IN THE 15-20KT RANGE WITH SEAS RISING TO 5 FT.
AS THE THE LOW MOVES FURTHER AWAY LATER TODAY...WINDS SHOULD BEGIN
TO DROP OFF.

&&

.AVIATION...THUNDERSTORMS WHICH DEVELOPED OVER NORTHERN GEORGIA
MOVED SOUTHWARD HAVE DISSIPATED. EXPECT AREAS OF MIST OR FOG TO
DEVELOP BY DAYBREAK...ESPECIALLY OVER SOUTHEAST ALABAMA AND SOUTH
CENTRAL GEORGIA. VISIBILITIES SHOULD REMAIN VFR EXCEPT FOR AREAS OF
MVFR VISIBILITIES OVER SOUTHEAST ALABAMA AND SOUTH CENTRAL GEORGIA.
EXPECT WIDESPREAD MVFR CEILINGS TO DEVELOP BY DAYBREAK ACROSS THE TI
STATE AREA...AND BY MID MORNING CONDITIONS WILL RETURN TO VFR. WITH
DRIER AIR SPREADING SOUTHWARD ACROSS MUCH OF THE AREA...SHOULD SEE
ONLY SCATTERED CU AND ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS MAINLY OVER FLORIDA.

&&

.FIRE WEATHER...LOW LEVEL MOISTURE WILL REMAIN PLENTIFUL ACROSS THE
AREA THROUGH THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS. NO FIRE WEATHER CONCERNS ATTM.

&&

.PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS...
TALLAHASSEE  92  72  92  73 /  30  20  40  10
PANAMA CITY  89  77  89  77 /  40  20  30  10
DOTHAN       93  73  93  72 /  20  10  30  05
ALBANY       95  73  95  73 /  20  10  30  10
VALDOSTA     92  73  92  73 /  20  20  40  10
CROSS CITY   91  72  92  72 /  20  20  40  20

&&

.TAE WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
AL...NONE.
GA...NONE.
FL...NONE.
GM...NONE.
&&

SHORT TERM/MARINE...BLOCK
FIRE WX/AVIATION...DUVAL
Hazardous weather outlook, Aug 3, 4:31 AM EST, 3 hours 59 minutes before
HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TALLAHASSEE FL
531 AM EDT SUN AUG 3 2008

ALZ065>069-FLZ007>019-026>029-034-GAZ120>131-142>148-155>161-
GMZ730-750-755-765-770-775-040945-
COFFEE-DALE-HENRY-GENEVA-HOUSTON-INLAND WALTON-COASTAL WALTON-
HOLMES-WASHINGTON-JACKSON-BAY-CALHOUN-GULF-FRANKLIN-GADSDEN-LEON-
JEFFERSON-MADISON-LIBERTY-WAKULLA-TAYLOR-LAFAYETTE-DIXIE-QUITMAN-
CLAY-RANDOLPH-TERRELL-DOUGHERTY-LEE-WORTH-TURNER-TIFT-BEN HILL-
IRWIN-EARLY-MILLER-BAKER-MITCHELL-COLQUITT-COOK-BERRIEN-SEMINOLE-
DECATUR-GRADY-THOMAS-BROOKS-LOWNDES-LANIER-
APALACHEE BAY OR COASTAL WATERS FROM KEATON BEACH TO OCHLOCKONEE
RIVER FL OUT TO 20 NM-
COASTAL WATERS FROM APALACHICOLA TO DESTIN FL OUT 20 NM-
COASTAL WATERS FROM  OCHLOCKONEE RIVER TO APALACHICOLA FL OUT TO
20 NM-
COASTAL WATERS FROM  SUWANNEE RIVER TO KEATON BEACH OUT 20 NM-
WATERS FROM APALACHICOLA TO DESTIN FL FROM 20 TO 60 NM-
WATERS FROM  SUWANNEE RIVER TO APALACHICOLA FL FROM 20 TO 60 NM-
531 AM EDT SUN AUG 3 2008 /431 AM CDT SUN AUG 3 2008/

THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR SOUTHEAST ALABAMA...
SOUTHWEST AND SOUTH CENTRAL GEORGIA...AND THE FLORIDA BIG BEND
AND PANHANDLE...AND ADJACENT COASTAL WATERS.

.DAY ONE...TODAY AND TONIGHT...
PATCHY LIGHT FOG REMAINS POSSIBLE EARLY. OTHERWISE...A WEAKENING
SURFACE TROUGH EXISTS JUST NORTH OF THE FORECAST AREA BUT THE
UPPER LEVEL TROUGH WILL LIFT NORTHEAST INTO THE ATLANTIC REPLACED
BY A RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE WITH DRIER AIR FILTERING IN. RAIN
CHANCES REMAIN SMALL TODAY...ESPECIALLY AWAY FROM THE COAST.
MARINERS SAILING ON THE OFFSHORE PANHANDLE WATERS THIS MORNING MAY
EXPERIENCE ELEVATED WINDS AND/OR SEA. PATCHY FOG WILL LIKELY
DEVELOP LATER TONIGHT.

THE IS A MODERATE TO HIGH RISK FOR RIP CURRENTS THIS AFTERNOON...
WITH THE HIGHEST RISK ACROSS WALTON COUNTY.

.DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY...
ALTHOUGH THE UPPER LEVELS OF THE ATMOSPHERE WILL REMAIN RELATIVELY
DRY...LOW LEVEL ONSHORE FLOW WILL MAINTAIN A HOT AND HUMID AIRMASS
FOR MUCH OF THE WORKWEEK. THIS WILL GENERATE UNCOMFORTABLE HEAT
INDICES WHICH MAY APPROACH ADVISORY CRITERIA IN SOME LOCALES. THE
SEA BREEZE WILL PROVIDE THE FOCUS FOR MAINLY AFTERNOON AND EVENING
RAIN EACH DAY.

.SPOTTER INFORMATION STATEMENT...
SPOTTER ACTIVATION IS NOT EXPECTED TODAY.

FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION...VISIT THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE
WEBSITE ON THE INTERNET AT WEATHER.GOV...THEN CLICK ON YOUR AREA
OF INTEREST ON THE NATIONAL MAP.

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Event by event

3 rip current. Local standard time, as filed.

Rip Current, Bay

When
August 3, 8:30 AM EST
Where
Bay forecast zone
Deaths
1 direct, 0 indirect
Injuries
1 direct, 0 indirect
Reported by
Law Enforcement
Coordinates
30.238, -85.633 (the zone’s center; the record gives no point)

A Texas man and his wife were rescued from the surf by the Panama City Beach police. Both victims were taken to a local hospital. The man was pronounced dead. The woman recovered.

Rip Current, Bay

When
August 3, 1:45 PM EST
Where
Bay forecast zone
Deaths
1 direct, 0 indirect
Reported by
Law Enforcement
Coordinates
30.238, -85.633 (the zone’s center; the record gives no point)

A Georgia man and his two daughters were rescued from the surf by the Panama City Beach police. The girls survived, however the man later died at a local hospital.

Rip Current, Bay

When
August 4, 8:30 AM EST
Where
Bay forecast zone
Deaths
1 direct, 0 indirect
Injuries
1 direct, 0 indirect
Reported by
Law Enforcement
Coordinates
30.238, -85.633 (the zone’s center; the record gives no point)

An Alabama man and histwo children becmae distressed in the surf, and the children's grandfather went into the water to assist them. The grandfather got caught up in the strong current. Beach Surf and Rescue personnel and nearby beach vendors were able to rescue all four victims. However, paramedics were unable to revive the father, and the grandfather was taken to a local hospital and later released.

The people who died

As the offices recorded each death: direct deaths were caused by the weather itself, indirect ones by something it set in motion.

EventDateAgeSexWhereKind
Rip Current, Bay2008-08-0360MaleIn WaterDirect
Rip Current, Bay2008-08-0334MaleIn WaterDirect
Rip Current, Bay2008-08-0443MaleIn WaterDirect

What these are

Rip Current
A narrow, fast current flowing away from the beach that caused a drowning or rescue.

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Sources

NOAA National Centers for Environmental Information, Storm Events Database, compiled from the National Weather Service’s monthly Storm Data. Complete through 2026-06; NCEI adds each month about 75 days after it ends and revises past years a few times a year. Rebuilt 2026-09-24. Each event’s entry at NCEI: 127671, 127674, 127679.